Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.118 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.01; '(even': 0.05; 'suddenly': 0.07; 'similar,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '(there': 0.16; 'foot': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gained': 0.16; 'here).': 0.16; 'it;': 0.16; 'jumping': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'shape': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; '(such': 0.24; 'keyboard': 0.24; 'precise': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'class.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'class': 0.32; 'front': 0.32; 'device': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'others.': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; '12,': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'phones': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'devices': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'happen': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'details': 0.65; 'phone': 0.66; 'skill': 0.68; 'vehicle': 0.68; 'brand': 0.72; 'around,': 0.84; 'cars': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'hands': 0.96; 'incredibly': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=AOdfAaBixQMXx+QISZ4XaM9jfNFXjXNQnQJobWgRF0Y=; b=Zv03nHBigOPwvX1IfoVBi0q8SjQFwD6Ip1L+9K/njuUlil08h3uZs65NxYq4GenCaT 3S7DkMs+vDjDSR4e6wistuIQqOAbwZtAxZVhuqGBTQ52ImPzfAGJJvTUwaGquilmRCfQ T4uJD04kVll85TqxCQaxm+LrZtdASwD/4PLDJTyCnZc2aXwQHJL7WgDPjG7bfb3wI7Z3 MvD68nx8C1AkZZiHqCI4P8USCHxFLGxM/64aKfI+gAbLHbhij9cCc/QJVy+hrPXc1lXL u9mXmGUD2gUY4563ZUx4YjOYThNAbKpmIB9vboHmZSNylRaPrPnwaQMn//8nSd+hN3i7 9c+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.0.193 with SMTP id 1mr15772808vdg.0.1399833205979; Sun, 11 May 2014 11:33:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <536FBBE0.9040902@stoneleaf.us> References: <87ha50hagu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <536b8411$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536b9308$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536bab23$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536f2227$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <871tw0s2kl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <536FBBE0.9040902@stoneleaf.us> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 04:33:25 +1000 Subject: Re: Fortran From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1399833209 news.xs4all.nl 2889 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37753 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71333 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > For the most part cars are very similar, yet in some circumstances (such as > a vehicle in front of you suddenly stopping) the exact details (such as the > precise location and size and shape of the brake pedal) become > excruciatingly important (having your foot stomp the floor just to the right > of the current break pedal, because that's where the brake was in your last > vehicle, is not going to help here). Some things are more standardized than others. A piano keyboard is incredibly standard, to make it possible to play without having to look at your fingers (even when jumping your hands around, which doesn't happen as much on a computer keyboard); mobile phones are anything but, so you really need to get to know your particular phone (there may or may not even be brand similarities). But that's really tangential to the question of using something without gaining any skill in it; it's more a matter of how well skill gained on one device in a class translates to other devices in that class. ChrisA