Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'receives': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'failing': 0.07; 'reason,': 0.07; 'revision': 0.07; '(currently': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'obsolete': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'personally,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'those,': 0.16; 'well-known': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'examples': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '---': 0.24; '(for': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; '2008,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'pascal': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:05': 0.31; 'regular': 0.32; 'standards': 0.33; 'next': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'subject:have': 0.80; 'url:2014': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: The =?windows-1252?Q?=93does_Python_have_variables=3F=94?= =?windows-1252?Q?_debate?= Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 09:13:17 +0100 References: <87tx91warf.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85eh05cdjx.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87ha50hagu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <536b8411$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536b9308$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536bab23$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-23-214.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140508-1, 08/05/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1399623212 news.xs4all.nl 2952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54746 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71156 On 09/05/2014 02:02, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 08 May 2014 16:04:51 GMT, Steven D'Aprano > declaimed the following: > >> Personally, I think that trying to be general and talk about "many other >> languages" is a failing strategy. Better to be concrete: C, Pascal, >> Algol, Fortran, VB (I think) are good examples of the "value in a box at >> a fixed location" model. Of those, Algol, Pascal and Fortran are either >> obsolete or legacy, and C is by far the most well-known by people here. >> (For some reason, few people seem to migrate from VB to Python.) Hence, >> "C-like". >> > > Obsolete and Legacy? Fortran still receives regular standards updates > (currently 2008, with the next revision due in 2015). > http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/scientific-computings-future-can-any-coding-language-top-a-1950s-behemoth/ -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com