Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: raise None Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:12:37 +1100 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <56847239$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5684842a$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de vFQbvqekC7cyZXzfc90vuQX+2bdZuxQTw4DXlrBVcL5Q== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'value,': 0.03; 'none,': 0.05; 'none:': 0.05; 'type,': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'falls': 0.09; 'none"': 0.09; 'none.': 0.09; 'subject:None': 0.09; 'valueerror': 0.09; 'exception': 0.13; 'def': 0.13; 'explicitly': 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; '39,': 0.16; 'b):': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'function?': 0.16; 'gotcha.': 0.16; 'no-op,': 0.16; 'read-only.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'work,': 0.21; '31,': 0.22; 'exceptions': 0.22; 'bit': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; '(most': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.26; 'error': 0.27; 'compare': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'raise': 0.29; 'another': 0.32; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'raising': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'trouble': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'level': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'lines': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'self': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'along': 0.39; 'save': 0.60; 'today,': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'natural': 0.67; '(is': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=nEuuq6CGw83vca3rSsYTGnPG0XpAMrnVmThL83inwqs=; b=03Qh6hejYG+IotFk9d26hdg+dW9gZN5NmUD1iAZKV/68+GBe1OAME2c5pjOy+51tO2 naXjx9/VGT780Kbiv7THOTJHrVd+HSPD7GV8x/CamT4AjQQI0sTAUMgEve7FTAjUmwtO lwQBfK0FVfnDE1QlVhntLBivpsjr0Q76XBYfbTu/LEsZhvmKFUhXQxVyJx0w7fzSovsg 8HOIp6AaC9V9ebBp0iDcM/NXJVN2L0GQIkk2OR7mjYUHHd0rSwJ9KqDu/+YOWS7/nOxg N+npEKJG6Cd1mfRaKIkMD8NfXH4mi/GRoiT5K03HYEazDITIwtYYrt1iObIwbyNQ7Iog lnPg== X-Received: by 10.50.60.6 with SMTP id d6mr11771906igr.94.1451527957415; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:12:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5684842a$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101035 On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "spam", line 19, in this > File "spam", line 29, in that > File "spam", line 39, in other > ThingyError: ... > > > I think this is a win for debuggability. (Is that a word?) But it's a bit > annoying to do it today, since you have to save the return result and > explicitly compare it to None. If "raise None" was a no-op, it would feel > more natural to just say raise _validate() and trust that if _validate > falls out the end and returns None, the raise will be a no-op. (Yes, it is.) Gotcha. So here's an alternative possibility. Instead of raising None doing nothing, what you really want is to have _validate signal an error with one less level of traceback - that is, you want it to raise an exception from the calling function. class remove_traceback_level: def __enter__(self): return self def __exit__(self, type, value, traceback): if type is None: return tb = traceback while tb.tb_next: tb = tb.tb_next tb.tb_next = None raise value from traceback def _validate(a, b): with remove_traceback_level(): if condition(a) or condition(b): raise TypeError if other_condition(a) or something_else(b): raise ValueError if whatever(a): raise SomethingError The trouble is that this doesn't actually work, because tb_next is read-only. But is there something along these lines that would make a function raise exceptions as if it were in another function? ChrisA