Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'revision': 0.05; 'chunk': 0.07; 'exception.': 0.07; 'smallest': 0.07; 'thats': 0.07; 'valueerror:': 0.07; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; 'skip:t 60': 0.09; 'ignore': 0.14; 'things.': 0.15; '>try:': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'message-id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'received:89.233': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217.133': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'subject:array': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'try/except': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'stick': 0.18; 'try:': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'posted': 0.21; 'work,': 0.21; 'pass': 0.22; 'errors': 0.23; 'forgot': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'cc:addr:gmail.com': 0.24; 'written': 0.24; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'skip:m 30': 0.27; 'error': 0.27; 'received:se': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'mention': 0.30; 'supposed': 0.31; 'run': 0.33; 'except': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'skip:c 30': 0.35; 'important.': 0.35; 'quite': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'expect': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'anything': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.39; 'along': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'real': 0.62; 'here.': 0.62; 'for:': 0.64; 'skip:a 40': 0.64; 'skip:w 40': 0.66; 'received:89': 0.80; 'sort.': 0.84 To: python-list@python.org cc: Seb From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: scalar vs array and program control In-Reply-To: Message from Laura Creighton of "Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:01:21 +0200." <201507251101.t6PB1LqE021165@fido.openend.se> References: <87vbd850qa.fsf@gmail.com><201507251101.t6PB1LqE021165@fido.openend.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23477.1437828283.1@fido> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 14:44:43 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [89.233.217.130]); Sat, 25 Jul 2015 14:44:45 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437828297 news.xs4all.nl 2954 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39706 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94546 And because I was rushed and posted without revision I left out something important. >So this is, quite likely, the pattern that you are looking for: > >try: > all_your_code_which_is_happy_with_non_scalars >except WhateverErrorPythonGivesYouWhenYouTryThisWithScalars: > whatever_you_want_to_do_when_this_happens > >This is the usual way to do things. I forgot to tell you that you are supposed to stick the try/except around the smallest chunk of code that you expect to get the exception. So you write this as code_you_expect_always_to_work more_code_you_expect_always_to_work try: these_four_lines_of_code_that_will_be_unhappy_if_its_a_scalar except ValueError: # whatever kind of error the real error is whatever_you_want_to_do_when_that_happens The reason is that if you get any Value Errors in the part of the code you always expect to work, then you don't want your program to run happily along running the code for 'its a scalar'. You don't want to hide real errors here. The other thing I forgot to mention is that sometimes you don't want to do anything but ignore any errors of this sort. Thats written like this: code_you_expect_always_to_work more_code_you_expect_always_to_work try: these_four_lines_of_code_that_will_be_unhappy_if_its_a_scalar except ValueError: pass # just ignore it Laura