Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'third-party': 0.04; 'dev': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'run,': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'tcl/tk': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'this)': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'headers': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'extension': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'wondering': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; 'fault': 0.31; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'charset :us-ascii': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'reports': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; "couldn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'received:204': 0.75; 'article': 0.77; 'received:204.14': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Deily Subject: Re: idle glitch while building python 3.4 from sources Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 11:19:58 -0700 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.14.154.233 User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1399486815 news.xs4all.nl 2936 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48012 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71044 In article , Mark H Harris wrote: > I know its my own fault (because I should just know this) but I got to > wondering about others who 'might not know' about the tcl/tk dev > packages and would be scratching their heads about why _tkinter is > missing and IDLE won't run, although tcl/tk is installed correctly and > running? If the Python build (the "make sharedmods" build step) can't successfully build the _tkinter extension module (because, for example, it couldn't find the Tk headers or libraries), the build step already reports that it could not build _tkinter. It does the same for all of the other extension module builds, some of which also require third-party headers and libraries, like those from OpenSSL, zlib, bz2, etc. Also, most people don't build Python from source - they install Python from a distributor - and the people who do generally know (or learn quickly) what dependencies are needed for their needs. -- Ned Deily, nad@acm.org