Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'broken': 0.04; 'interfaces': 0.04; 'tree': 0.05; 'advocate': 0.07; 'discard': 0.07; 'encouraging': 0.07; 'users,': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'things,': 0.09; 'thread': 0.14; 'buggy': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'guilty': 0.16; 'guys,': 0.16; 'meanwhile': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'threads.': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'references': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'field,': 0.30; 'label': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'wright': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'yes.': 0.31; 'front': 0.32; 'alone': 0.33; 'knows': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'forum': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'hear': 0.63; 'subject': 0.69; 'received:125': 0.84; 'walking': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: [OT] Silde rules Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 10:01:43 +1000 References: <535f0f9f$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <535f3bf7$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <5369095e$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:eHREk3f48P9Y+klzB0ZHH0JZ2V0= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1399420916 news.xs4all.nl 2872 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38815 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70994 Steven D'Aprano writes: > Guys, heaven knows I'm guilty of the occasional off-topic post myself, > and I'm not obsessive about these things, but there comes a time in every > off-topic thread where the right thing to do is to label it off-topic. > And this thread has long passed that time! Yes. Changing the Subject field, while retaining the References field, is how we make threads continue uninterrupted across a change of topic. Sadly, this standard method is both unfamiliar to a lot of forum users, and (reportedly) disrupts regressively buggy forum interfaces like Google Groups which have a stupid broken implementation of threads. The solution IMO is to discard Google Groups as irretrievably broken, but I don't have much hope for that. Meanwhile I advocate using the full features of Usenet and encouraging as many as possible to use proper clients. -- \ “I was once walking through the forest alone and a tree fell | `\ right in front of me, and I didn't hear it.” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney