Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'part,': 0.09; 'themselves,': 0.09; 'used.': 0.09; 'url:blog': 0.10; 'encodings': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'this:': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '>>>>': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; 'comment': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'are,': 0.36; "he's": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'major': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'universally': 0.84; 'url:2014': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ZphjKrLG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=1oDRhzKAKukA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=BH1FyCshAAAA:8 a=_bAW75e-D9KzpdMBV1EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=vamGla04uGMA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 00:33:21 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Unicode 7 References: <5361d4f9$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <82067b83-a6f5-4b16-b012-385535ea5607@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1398987208 news.xs4all.nl 2904 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35725 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70831 On 2014-05-01 23:38, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/1/2014 2:04 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > >>>> Since its Unicode-troll time, here's my contribution >>>> http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicode-and-unix-assumption.html > > I will not comment on the Unix-assumption part, but I think you go wrong > with this: "Unicode is a Headache". The major headache is that unicode > and its very few encodings are not universally used. The headache is all > the non-unicode legacy encodings still being used. So you better title > this section 'Non-Unicode is a Headache'. > [snip] I think he's right when he says "Unicode is a headache", but only because it's being used to handle languages which are, themselves, a "headache": left-to-right versus right-to-left, sometimes on the same line; diacritics, possibly several on a glyph; etc.