Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Mark Lawrence Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Pyhon 2.x or 3.x, which is faster? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 21:13:14 +0000 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <87d1r6iltx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <56df6761$0$1588$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 7WW3ehR8apVRnkZtTy0YFwbCn8YAJfZcs3D9WMy+pqvw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:which': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'dropping': 0.16; 'matters,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'still,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'pointed': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; "python's": 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'module': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'equivalent': 0.27; 'handling': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'waste': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; "can't": 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'raising': 0.33; 'world,': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'unicode': 0.35; 'quite': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'release': 0.37; 'whatever': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'free,': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'real': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'world': 0.64; 'forward': 0.66; '100%': 0.72; '2.8': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.234.129.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104453 On 09/03/2016 12:02, BartC wrote: > On 09/03/2016 08:40, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > Here's another: you have a program in Python that you'd quite like to > port to another dynamic language. Transcribing actual Python code is > straightforward. Until you come to an import of a module that you can't > find, because it's not written in Python. Now what? Now, you might > appreciate the advantage of a program in 100% pure Python. > That is not Python's problem, or my problem, that is your problem. Not that it matters, when you release BartC or whatever you call your language it'll take over the world, so I'm looking forward to dropping Python. What is the release date? Could it be the same as that for Python 2.8 or RickedPython? Will the unicode handling be better than that of the dread Python 3.3+, PEP393 Flexible String Representation as repeatedly pointed out by the RUE? Performance wise will it be tested against real world benchmarks or microbechmarks? Better still, will it be bug free, such that I don't have to waste my time on the equivalent of bugs.python.org raising problems, which should have been foreseen by your one man crew? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence