Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '(although': 0.05; ':-)': 0.06; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '"""': 0.07; 'subject:community': 0.07; 'correct.': 0.09; 'description,': 0.09; 'difference,': 0.09; 'from:addr:python': 0.09; 'wooden': 0.09; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'guilty': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:84.92': 0.16; 'received:84.92.122': 0.16; 'received:84.92.122.60': 0.16; 'reply-to:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'to"': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wearing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '(i.e.': 0.17; 'language,': 0.17; 'language': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'figure': 0.21; 'bonus': 0.21; 'maybe': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'concise': 0.23; 'incorrect': 0.23; 'saying': 0.26; 'hey': 0.26; 'martin': 0.28; 'received:84': 0.28; 'correct': 0.28; 'second': 0.29; 'not.': 0.30; 'times.': 0.30; 'turned': 0.30; 'least': 0.31; 'seem': 0.31; 'germany': 0.31; 'agree': 0.33; "isn't": 0.33; 'actually': 0.33; "can't": 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'someone': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; 'recognize': 0.34; 'reply-to:addr:python.org': 0.34; 'certain': 0.35; 'post': 0.36; 'another': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'ways': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'description': 0.39; 'more': 0.60; 'double': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'believe': 0.65; 'shoes': 0.67; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.71; 'become': 0.71; 'wear': 0.73; 'comfortable,': 0.84; 'freely': 0.84; 'sentences,': 0.84; 'shoes,': 0.93 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEHAOC9Sk7Unw4S/2dsb2JhbABBmTKPEXeBQAEBBAE4RgsLCBAJJQ8CDjgTCAEBEAGHWwK6AIZIBIteSYt3i2o Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:03:53 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. References: <39e8985a-a0c1-487f-8f87-4e39d120c14b@h9g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> <87cb1497-9aa2-4213-b721-055bf31e10a1@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <9att2bF710U1@mid.individual.net> <1ca7c139-cd1f-4c09-830d-881f8881cdf1@bl1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <0c41b5fa-55f0-4086-a279-bec1847f9177@w18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <4E4AB8FD.9080406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E4AB8FD.9080406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: python-list@python.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1313521436 news.xs4all.nl 23933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54128 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:11603 On 16/08/2011 19:37, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > On 16/08/2011 18:51, Prasad, Ramit wrote: >>> Incorrect past tense usage of "used to": >>> """ I "used to" wear wooden shoes """ >> >>> Incorrect description using "used to": >>> """ I have become "used to" wearing wooden shoes """ >> >>> Correct usage of "used to": >>> """ Wooden shoes can be "used to" torture someone """ >> >> Double you tee eff? Maybe this is a cultural language difference, but >> I believe all of the above are correct. Well, I am not sure about the >> middle one but the other two are valid. >> > Well admittedly English isn't my native language, But indeed all > sentences seem correct to me. > English _is_ my native language, and I agree with you. > With the first sentence meaning: in the past I wore wooden shoes, but > presently I do not. > Correct. > With the second sentence meaning: in the past I was not used to (i.e. > uncomfortable, hey bonus points!) wearing wooden shoes, but presently I > am used to it (although not necessarily comfortable, but at least not > uncomfortable). > Correct. > I actually can't figure out a way of saying those two sentences more > concise or correct then it has been given. > > But then again I do recognize that these are quite 'Germanic'* ways of > constructing sentences, as in freely mixing past, present and future to > indicate that a certain description is restricted to a specific time frame. > > > * For the lack of a better description, I am not a linguist, but I was > born in Germany and I am often guilty of mixing times. > > Also RR, congratualation to another troll post that turned out quite > interesting :-) >