Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.025 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'dependency': 0.09; 'working:': 0.09; '23,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'retry': 0.16; 'ssh': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'tk.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; 'environment': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'display': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'explains': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'situation': 0.65; 'fail.': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'hand,': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SkTSwUPsJMhd2hg12bEt0EoMZG/GHRiDstXH9/KYGsM=; b=n9rY62iZrLk9Vbl4zygFLe8u7oDjtd1/xYs5AbbrIvHn9m+Wpw2HgcftmxMJgIRR1/ Jw36hXn9VzctwQLR0+cxpJeYp08ehnD9rImklCvE/8VyL0VRLH4/Fg3wGJ0OurbKY54c gGtj/3edQWZQ9YSPJhRKVzpw4gJa9NNtqeRAKfn7EdLY5FrpP8w/+b6YAFL29JmkwvpS yGg1hW36ge5rIncMLOSA7i6pgcG71uAjTp/TqNSfEaqovf1vk3j4Z5zQzmGVLDrYi1sT mEKvpgeZCzcZmgS9s/hDeTL+NEOgHPLllkUISjgL/tt0wzGwPjMherq88uDP6EW9KBw+ MSUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.97.8 with SMTP id dw8mr18195482vdb.91.1366690305267; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:11:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51760802$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <9ba1d90b-1a69-4e5a-8a9e-574009b0bdf3@fs2g2000pbd.googlegroups.com> <5174b515$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5174e407$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5175005f$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5175d450$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51760802$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:11:45 +1000 Subject: Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366690307 news.xs4all.nl 2212 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33646 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44140 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:36:38 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> It's only when I actually try to do something that requires an X >>> display that it will fail. I won't show the entire traceback, because >>> it is long and not particularly enlightening, but the final error >>> message explains exactly why it isn't working: >>> >>> _tkinter.TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable >> >> You presumably have a system to test this on. Can you try using ssh -X >> to get to it, and then retry that action? It looks like you actually >> have everything you need, just no display... which is exactly what you'd >> get if you ssh to something that has a real GUI. Not a dependency >> problem. > > I didn't say it was a dependency problem. I'm just demonstrating that it > is possible for tkinter code to fail even if all the dependencies are > met; and on the other hand, it is useful to be able to import tkinter > even if you cannot display any tkinter windows. Sure. But I don't know that the situation you're seeing is the same as the one you'd see if you install tkinter without tk. ChrisA