Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.066 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; '"""': 0.05; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.09; 'appropriate.': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'though...': 0.09; 'appropriate': 0.14; 'applies': 0.15; 'complained': 0.16; 'strength': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'preferred': 0.20; 'so.': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'see,': 0.27; 'about.': 0.29; 'decline': 0.29; 'reform': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.30; "can't": 0.32; 'statement': 0.32; 'rule': 0.33; 'wales': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'authors': 0.35; 'court': 0.35; 'downloads': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'responsible': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'hundreds': 0.37; 'url:en': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'determine': 0.61; 'yes': 0.62; 'leaving': 0.63; 'hear': 0.64; 'places': 0.64; 'act': 0.67; 'foreign': 0.69; 'country': 0.74; 'satisfied': 0.83; 'oscar': 0.84; 'tourism': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91; 'ireland': 0.91; 'hundred': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=CN9YWdxJGIMVcqMSu4KajIJNvLSmcrPDuZEB6gscyRM=; b=tQYUFR5LoX7Vnk2Djfe4C+7EO09NpjW0ZIPlxrm7sNF33r4Fo0Lz2/AbJNnrjt+hpT Uk0qg3ZyBC3BU8yQ6BWtirLGXQgQEVf80Qlp868fmcZldYVjYpf6VtqXbp8U4jnS38Hk 06pv1Z96g6tBbw7rWHDpd2Zlv/ptf4bKvQK2BzjFXfkRNl7a8kr7ZZx5jDPOpM5vBwYq oKwTSVSAxBwxfxCnObwmQalxAeII73tEj+JMBZtbVIfEbq0dl5V0b6GAUpuG7TR1WtD+ I8Ph2NXrK+kMxek5NsbWclYeV/X7bwzKHX9dXAB27Br3rbu1tRtIGrgY1x0LRkdzV0Im GD5A== X-Received: by 10.112.14.9 with SMTP id l9mr8294509lbc.91.1445515191795; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 04:59:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201510221136.t9MBaYGq029303@fido.openend.se> References: <1454496840.1661921445200299637.JavaMail.httpd@webmail-50.iol.local> <56263cfe$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20151022114508.1b95c332@mini.home> <201510221119.t9MBJER4027985@fido.openend.se> <201510221136.t9MBaYGq029303@fido.openend.se> From: Oscar Benjamin Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:59:32 +0100 Subject: Re: Defamation To: Laura Creighton Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445515519 news.xs4all.nl 23859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44877 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97898 On 22 October 2015 at 12:36, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The UK libel reform act of 2013, I see, may be responsible for > the decline in libel tourism. > http://www.libelreform.org/ Yes I think so. From Wikipedia: """ A court does not have jurisdiction to hear and determine any action, unless the court is satisfied that, of all the places in which the statement complained of has been published, England and Wales is clearly the most appropriate. """ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_Act_2013#Jurisdiction Libel tourism cases often would occur for a foreign publication that was not distributed in printed form in the UK but had a website that was globally accessible. A case might be brought on the strength of say a hundred UK downloads from the website despite the publication having a printed circulation of hundreds of thousands in some other country (and the authors and complainants all being in the same other country). I can't recall any specific cases right now though... If the court needs to be satisfied that England and Wales is the _most_ appropriate place to hear the case then this would rule out the libel tourism cases I used to hear about. Apparently this only applies to England and Wales though leaving Northern Ireland as a new preferred location for libel tourism. -- Oscar