Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'read.': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'classes,': 0.05; 'irc': 0.05; 'class,': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'advice.': 0.09; 'classes.': 0.09; 'currently,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'messing': 0.09; 'oop': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'url:github': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'attributes:': 0.16; 'dictionary.': 0.16; 'identifier.': 0.16; 'obviously,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:OOP': 0.16; 'tuple': 0.16; 'java,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'file,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; 'import': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'logical': 0.24; 'manager.': 0.24; 'replace': 0.24; 'file.': 0.24; '---': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'define': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'certain': 0.27; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; 'moved': 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; 'program,': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'about.': 0.31; 'though.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'class': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'skip:# 10': 0.33; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'moving': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'protection': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'received:2': 0.84; 'single,': 0.84; 'subject:Moving': 0.84; 'url:master': 0.84; 'suffer': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Moving to an OOP model from an classically imperitive one Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 22:15:03 +0100 References: <80a82415-fc67-4ccf-8827-27a0ba5459b7@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-192-136.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <80a82415-fc67-4ccf-8827-27a0ba5459b7@googlegroups.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140423-0, 23/04/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 58 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1398287725 news.xs4all.nl 2924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38545 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70551 On 23/04/2014 21:57, tim.thelion@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently writting a program called subuser(subuser.org), which is written as classically imperative code. Subuser is, essentially, a package manager. It installs and updates programs from repositories. > > I have a set of source files https://github.com/subuser-security/subuser/tree/master/logic/subuserCommands/subuserlib which have functions in them. Each function does something to a program, it identifies the program by the programs name. For example, I have an installProgram function defined as such: > > def installProgram(programName, useCache): > > Now I've run into a flaw in this model. There are certain situations where a "programName" is not a unique identifier. It is possible for two repositories to each have a program with the same name. Obviously, I could go through my code and replace all use of the string "programName" with a tuple of (programName, repository). Or I could define a new class with two attributes: programName and repository, and pass such a simple object arround, or pass a dictionary. However, I think this would be better solved by moving fully to an OOP model. That is, I would have a SubuserProgram class which had methods such as "install", "describe", "isInstalled"... > > There is one problem though. Currently, I have these functions logically organized into source files, each between 40 and 170 LOC. I fear that if I were to put all of these functions into one class, than I would have a single, very large source file. I don't like working with large source files for practicall reasons. If I am to define the class SubuserProgram in the file SubuserProgram.py, I do not want all of run.py to be moved into that file as well. > > I thought about keeping each method in a separate file, much as I do now, something like: > > ################### > #FileA.py > ################### > def a(self): > blah > > ################### > #FileB.py > ################### > def b(self): > blah > > ################### > #Class.py > ################### > import FileA, FileB > class C: > a=FileA.a > b=FileB.b > > This works, but I find that it is hard to read. When I come across FileA, and I see "self" it just seems very confusing. I suffer a bout of "who-am-i"ism. > > I asked on IRC and it was sugested that I use multiple classes, however I see no logical way to separate a SubuserProgram object into multiple classes. > > So I thought I would seek your advice. > > Tim > You're writing Python, not Java, so put your code into one file and stop messing about. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com