Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'anyway.': 0.04; 'filter,': 0.09; 'indication': 0.09; 'received:mail- vb0-f46.google.com': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'dec': 0.15; 'client,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'informing': 0.16; "someone's": 0.16; 'sources.': 0.16; 'swallowed': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'pointed': 0.17; 'url:moin': 0.17; 'received:209.85.212.46': 0.18; "i've": 0.23; 'tried': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; 'no,': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'december': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'filter': 0.35; 'said,': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'posting': 0.35; 'continue': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'tool': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'google': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; "you've": 0.61; 'side': 0.61; 'provide': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'debate': 0.65; 'subject': 0.66; 'direct': 0.69; 'groups.': 0.78; 'friends': 0.83; 'audience,': 0.84; 'noise': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lTmhvTOHXWJwbtQUH0Ky7hbf1ehsnfoHOZlj/8N/HIE=; b=AWPew0Hu58lLR2IIhMzT1NNxwEQW0+phr61MNNVciIBu1cLvbjbDWbSYZeyJZqUR8z t+JVfnGRK42PlvyeoO8+OnwhFeSRYDRZcI/KI7Gwd/n2W6kQg1fNb3x5rwkQlreQIPqq EDi3NPvKzsiPuuV4OygdFmlt+Cwj6oUSkTyP/GG1Q/NRYupBLtE3iEVZIspM/jyIF2Lp AFhK5qLz85OZ7sZZ0YbDBb9cdKFhN9I8FQXIA6qeflxoEpavFkzkXhLG5IJa2IREANYY xF7g0zy4rUKMYgB3+/S+oqpFM8lWTmc6vJRqSKVxXOoqXoMa/sINyJxoq7+lRVY/Xtg+ eGAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <249e24aa-ea0e-4dab-afbe-bfeb5ce98592@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:16:46 +1100 Subject: Re: python-daemon From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1355725009 news.xs4all.nl 6946 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34717 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34956 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM, wrote: > On Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:25:51 PM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote: >>[...] >> If your post is swallowed by someone's twit filter, that probably >> means that you're doing something twittish. Switching to direct mail >> isn't going to win you any friends :) Switching your newsgroup client, >> however, will have all the same benefits; so do you want to be a tool >> of the anti-Google-Groups propaganda, or of the >> anti-anti-Google-Groups propaganda? > > The contents of a twit filter can be just as good an indication > of a twit reader as a twit poster. > > And as was pointed out the last time this subject came up, no, > other clients do not "have all the same benefits" [as GG]. > > Rather than continue this twit-for-twat noise I've tried to > provide something a little more constructive at > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython All you've said is the exact same things that have already been said, including that not everyone will see your post if you use Google Groups. Why use something that unnecessarily restricts your audience, when non-restrictive posting methods work just fine? Anyway. This debate isn't going away; I have no strong side in it, I'm just informing people of the fact that posting from GG will reduce your potential response sources. ChrisA