Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; '===': 0.09; 'converted': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'type,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; '"""if': 0.16; 'coerced': 0.16; 'evaluates': 0.16; 'operators,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'record,': 0.16; 'skip:n 50': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'numerical': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'example.': 0.24; 'url:02': 0.24; 'compare': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; '[1]': 0.29; 'cells': 0.31; 'comparison': 0.31; 'equality': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'not.': 0.33; 'received:co.za': 0.34; 'received:za': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'false': 0.36; 'programming,': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'course.': 0.60; 'skip:a 30': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'linked': 0.65; 'brain': 0.68; 'frank': 0.68; 'url:11': 0.68; 'received:41': 0.70; 'to,': 0.72; 'url:2011': 0.75; 'article': 0.77; 'eyes': 0.78; 'skip:n 40': 0.81; "else's": 0.84; 'url:php': 0.85 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Frank Millman" Subject: Re: I am never going to complain about Python again Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:44:57 +0200 References: <52562ee3$0$2931$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <52568B30.8040905@mrabarnett.plus.com> X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 41-135-99-70.dsl.mweb.co.za X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.4657 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4913 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 55 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1381405510 news.xs4all.nl 15867 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56561 "MRAB" wrote in message news:52568B30.8040905@mrabarnett.plus.com... > On 10/10/2013 09:23, Frank Millman wrote: >> >> "Steven D'Aprano" wrote in message >> news:52562ee3$0$2931$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com... >>> Just came across this little Javascript gem: >>> >>> ",,," == Array((null,'cool',false,NaN,4)); >>> >>> => evaluates as true >>> >>> http://wtfjs.com/2011/02/11/all-your-commas-are-belong-to-Array >>> >>> I swear, I am never going to complain about Python again. >>> >> >> I am sure you know this, but for the record, Javascript has two equality >> operators, '==' and '==='. >> >> The double form attempts to coerce the left and right sides to the same >> type, the triple form does not. >> > Re "==", this page: > > http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php > > states: > > """If you compare a number with a string or the *comparison involves > numerical strings*, then each string is converted to a number and the > comparison performed numerically.""" (emphasis added) > > So they get coerced to numbers if they _look_ like numbers! > I just tested Steven's example. ",,," == Array((null,'cool',false,NaN,4)) evaluates to true ",,," === Array((null,'cool',false,NaN,4)) evaluates to false I did look at the article that Steven linked to, but it made my eyes glaze, so don't ask me to explain it. I am prepared to use up a few brain cells trying to improve my own programming, but not trying to understand someone else's 'wtf' moments! [1] Frank [1] Unless I have to maintain it, of course. I have been there before, and I have some dark memories!