Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'source,': 0.04; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'repository': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'python3': 0.07; 'report.': 0.07; 'vast': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; '"python"': 0.16; '(when': 0.16; '*default*.': 0.16; 'preparing': 0.16; 'trivially': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'normally': 0.19; '2.x': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'patch': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'to:name:python-list': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'prepare': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'ahead': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'release': 0.40; 'break': 0.61; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'mar': 0.68; '2014,': 0.84; '3.4': 0.84; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'occasion': 0.84; 'why?': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=IeOshrsQTUFRSwOMZlyJFCblFSk0wOomG574kn8oNRo=; b=CAq+4bMK8rJdoPXm+4IvGwi/u0mj/27KB53rJ8/Fc1sKzfMW3WPBe+snUX97YoldR+ EPjBC2qUZNTVH7CiyKuMXqpmMOYqK43SuFLo7aJ0jP883Ev7jACZvotQJbX3j3Lm5pxc vhqQQnHhDBE7NsKmDsg0prlH//ij58XoWxDg2Jqi9oMlZVJTl5bgAU/uvjTocsd5TE0g CNiqMcOaHQq8ZMJogVxsCYHZHmdNvxueClPi9S+eyyqgfIozY50TFKIcDP4oat6nzZeA UN1WIYsrq/rE+0e8ndcz5qx5EXI/tWFs8jxlmlZQ0GgsIULeBLZBAm3SJZffs6ToU15G XCew== X-Received: by 10.152.18.229 with SMTP id z5mr3001556lad.27.1397603537341; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:12:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <87y4z8koi0.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87r44zgp5y.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> From: Joshua Landau Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 00:11:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J3qJKZf330aAtNJDDkKcsgFXKcM Subject: Re: Martijn Faassen: The Call of Python 2.8 To: python-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397603545 news.xs4all.nl 2873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70304 On 15 April 2014 23:18, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 4/15/14 5:34 PM, Joshua Landau wrote: >> Arch is on 3.4 *default*. >> >> $> python >> Python 3.4.0 (default, Mar 17 2014, 23:20:09) >> [...] >> > Yeah, that's the wrong way to do it, and they shouldn't have done that. > "python" needs to mean Python 2.x for a long time. Why? The only things that break are things outside of the official repos, and the vast majority of the user repository works flawlessly. If I get something from the source, I normally run it explicitly ("python the_thing") and on the very rare occasion it breaks (when it's 2.x and uses "python" to mean "python2") I can trivially patch or wrap it, and file a bug report. The python = python3 choice of Arch is not what takes up maintenance time, and it's good to prepare developers ahead of time. That's what rolling release is all about: getting the best and preparing the rest.