Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'responding': 0.07; 'globals': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; ':-)': 0.12; '10:15': 0.16; 'disclaiming': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'sadly': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'memory': 0.17; 'java': 0.22; 'trying': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'ago': 0.29; 'guess': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; 'michael': 0.33; 'programming.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'whom': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'ago.': 0.61; 'talking': 0.67; 'idiomatic': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CvRCCSMD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=v8OiaYm8tk7fjj5pKeEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. To: python-list@python.org References: <3bbeafa4-d756-46f8-9750-2fca29617cf4@googlegroups.com> <55E878BF.4050507@gmail.com> From: MRAB Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:29:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55E878BF.4050507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441304994 news.xs4all.nl 23843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95967 On 2015-09-03 17:43, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 09/03/2015 10:15 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> The only person whom I see talking about this in this thread is you >> disclaiming that you're not talking about it. (And I guess Skybuck is >> talking about it, but I don't see those.) > > I have a vague memory of Skybuck talking about globals over a year ago. > That must be what tdev's responding to. > It wasn't as long ago as that; it's been only 9 months! :-) > Sadly Skybuck probably ditched Python a long time ago as he was spending > his time trying to make it into Java rather than taking advantage of > idiomatic Python programming. Those that try to program Java style in > Python are going to be frustrated. >