Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'own.': 0.03; 'behavior,': 0.07; 'ignored': 0.07; 'necessary,': 0.09; 'received:mail- lpp01m010-f46.google.com': 0.09; 'though:': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; 'argument': 0.15; 'ideally': 0.15; 'result,': 0.15; '*args)': 0.16; '*args):': 0.16; '2:38': 0.16; 'iterable,': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:sum': 0.16; 'ways:': 0.16; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'subject:not': 0.19; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'feb': 0.22; 'produces': 0.23; 'though.': 0.23; 'expect': 0.25; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'all,': 0.27; "i'm": 0.28; 'second': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'subject:number': 0.30; 'zero.': 0.30; 'received:209.85.215.46': 0.32; 'thu,': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; 'this.': 0.33; 'operations': 0.35; 'starting': 0.36; 'two': 0.36; 'passed': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'replace': 0.38; 'should': 0.38; 'received:209.85.215': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'header:Received:6': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'proposal': 0.68; 'superior': 0.74; 'sum': 0.74; '12)': 0.84; 'buck': 0.84; 'summing': 0.84 Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ian.g.kelly@gmail.com designates 10.112.29.34 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.29.34; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ian.g.kelly@gmail.com designates 10.112.29.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ian.g.kelly@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=ian.g.kelly@gmail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=kfSt7MPg99jR4N5OMkSECeAAghz0Sf0OOG3zgSRGzbs=; b=tpV5F6ahkHLRWymDoaameQQgcsOc/IaY6Juommj33ITQDFquHE/Ol4nArGuld39oUN rw/O8ZovQs5itIMuTIW3frRCBId8CyaS6w1U44UMcLKDjOPXneriZE+tXjo+AXbIyu6V i3pq4BI2LIJ71GBTX5q1tCh6M7J1GKwXBVe9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <91c71e41-b98c-46f6-b3af-bed894cf9d92@kh11g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:54:22 -0700 Subject: Re: sum() requires number, not simply __add__ To: Buck Golemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1330034094 news.xs4all.nl 6947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58791 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20756 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Buck Golemon wrote: > My proposal is still *slightly* superior in two ways: > > 1) It reduces the number of __add__ operations by one > 2) The second argument isn't strictly necessary, if you don't mind > that the 'null sum' will produce zero. It produces the wrong result, though: >>> sum([3,4], base=12) 7 If I'm starting with 12 and summing 3 and 4, I expect to get 19. Ideally the second argument should be ignored only if it isn't passed in at all, and I don't know off-hand why the built-in sum doesn't do this. We really don't need to replace it, though. If you want a different sum behavior, just write your own. def sum(iterable, *args): return reduce(operator.add, iterable, *args) >>> sum([3,4]) 7 >>> sum([3,4], 12) 19 >>> sum(['hello', 'world']) 'helloworld' Cheers, Ian