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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albert-Jan Roskam <fomcl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Martijn Faassen: The Call of Python 2.8
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----- Original Message -----

> From: Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
> To: python-list@python.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Martijn Faassen: The Call of Python 2.8
> 
> On 4/15/2014 1:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>  Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>:
>> 
>>>  Any decent system should have 3.4 available now.
>> 
>>  Really, now? Which system is that?
> 
> 3.4.0 was released a month ago with Windows and Mac installers and 
> source for everything else. I know Ubuntu was testing the release 
> candidate so I presume it is or will very soon have 3.4 officially 
> available. Since there was a six month series of alpha, beta, and 
> candidate releases, with an approximate final release data, any 
> distribution that wanted to be up to date also could be.
> 
> This is all quite aside from the fact that one should be able to unpack 
> a tarball and 'make xxx'.

True, but in Debian Linux (so probably also Linux) one needs to install some zlib packages and some other stuff (https related IIRC) before compiling Python (at least with 3.3). 

So glad that pip (and setuptools too?) is part of the standard library in Python 3.4 (the zlib error became apparent when installing pip)

Albert-Jan