Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'source,': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'linux,': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'missed': 0.12; 'windows': 0.15; '16.': 0.16; '3.3,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'jumping': 0.16; 'precede': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '15,': 0.26; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'testing': 0.29; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; '???': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'dated': 0.31; 'os,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'dates': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'launch': 0.39; 'release': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'march': 0.61; 'providing': 0.61; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'latest': 0.67; '3.4': 0.84; 'build-dep': 0.84; 'instantly': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'ships': 0.84; 'stability': 0.84; '"apt-get': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VxAvlBS+mvlRDOuuvPiHLOJWFVubGqIoZF+U9+D7aV0=; b=jYEv6Hy1ouDg4A6BoiKEhrdD9kjRQo+x6YieteVFRdc7fy+MLb8oCfbBM6gzNYCG3j DApts6M1v1Fm4dGnTG/G+Ic3cRPsK7UOgqJlT2jXPS2Jjxw/GZDMUFeKmHd2U0pGd9/J 4bdxJWr/WdESf+Kl/Vk6Z7fJLzAcfvBxgoQfAD0LZJSc/2/f5satOa2Pt+NE/hjYPFd2 YEw4avR7gfJvMJIeAz9YEViC/8Jj11CUeavXqk7DtDXDuxJ6tkAQAZACnTZl5BW6Pmw2 5LXrSqxFd5WJWFjQjMfw6VggiOb+HYWpI41qzh3K9HN8GJaawE44Ie42Z8dMS16WJb4o NfXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.49.10 with SMTP id q10mr339589ven.5.1397552729774; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 02:05:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87y4z8koi0.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85ioqbw2eb.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:05:29 +1000 Subject: Re: Martijn Faassen: The Call of Python 2.8 From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397552733 news.xs4all.nl 2865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53854 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70263 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/15/2014 2:08 AM, Ben Finney wrote: >> >> Terry Reedy writes: >> >>> The 'mistake' is your OS, whatever it is, not providing 3.3. It is >>> already so old that it is off bugfix maintenance. Any decent system >>> should have 3.4 available now. >> >> >> I think you mean =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 should have Python 3.3 available now= =E2=80=9D, yes? > > > ??? why would you think that??? My installed 3.4.0 for Windows is dated > March 16. Debian's current stable (Wheezy) was released 2013/05/04, and the latest version release of it (7.4) was 2014/02/08. Both those dates precede 2014/03/16, so you don't get 3.4 in Wheezy. (Actually, you don't even get 3.3, presumably because its launch date of 2012/09/29 missed the Wheezy feature freeze in mid-2012.) Debian Jessie (current testing) ships 3.3 and 3.4, with the 'python3' package giving you 3.3. Stable OSes won't necessarily be jumping onto 3.4 instantly upon availability. Debian Squeeze (oldstable, still supported) doesn't even ship 3.2, all you get is 3.1.3. If you want Arch Linux, you know where to find it :) And of course, that very stability is what makes it easy to just "apt-get build-dep python3" and spin up one from source, possibly even a 3.5-with-except-expressions for the purpose of testing :) ChrisA