Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Erik Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Exended ASCII and code pages [was Re: for / while else doesn't make sense] Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:03:34 +0100 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <5742bacb$0$1526$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zirgrgol.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <21745CE1-A5BA-4B24-86BF-0B64DA0C886E@icloud.com> <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de vtvp+DwW+AGoBYu1k87HWgijlui4J1tb6Yu0tL0RW5OA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'encoding': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'wednesday': 0.15; '*any*': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; '8-bit': 0.16; 'ebcdic': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'processors': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'ascii': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'ibm': 0.27; 'really,': 0.29; 'subject: [': 0.29; 'system,': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'received:84': 0.32; 'common': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'back': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'internet': 0.70; 'incredibly': 0.76; 'cobol': 0.84; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84; 'grew': 0.91 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=QqujpgGd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:117 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=mm8QaoNAzEdjwtXfi3cA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5742bacb$0$1526$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zirgrgol.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <21745CE1-A5BA-4B24-86BF-0B64DA0C886E@icloud.com> <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109128 On 25/05/16 11:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wednesday 25 May 2016 19:10, Christopher Reimer wrote: > >> Back in the early 1980's, I grew up on 8-bit processors and latin-1 was all >> we had for ASCII. > > It really, truly wasn't. But you can be forgiven for not knowing that, since > until the rise of the public Internet most people weren't exposed to more than > one code page or encoding, and it was incredibly common for people to call > *any* encoding "ASCII". Indeed - at that time, I was working with COBOL on an IBM S/370. On that system, we used EBCDIC ASCII. That was the wierdest ASCII of all ;) E.