Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.143 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.73; '*S*': 0.02; 'position,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'missed': 0.12; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'not,': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "i've": 0.25; 'posts': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'unix': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'specified': 0.30; 'then.': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'such.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; '2nd': 0.60; 'further': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'field': 0.63; 'group,': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'saw': 0.77; 'forth': 0.81; 'claim.': 0.84; 'complaint': 0.84; 'female': 0.84; 'manual,': 0.84; 'offended': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:girl': 0.84; 'welcoming': 0.84; 'gender': 0.91; 'subject:!! ': 0.91; '\xe2\x80\x9cthe': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 18:57:42 +1100 References: <8c09473e-92df-40ac-b083-d2b3a2b75188@googlegroups.com> <2906370c-58c7-4d8b-8db3-2ea3773b9578@googlegroups.com> <54f8d56a$0$12984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54f916b2$0$12980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85385izu51.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BYH/0AF85l5X2b5A+HeQq1Vf/Hw= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425628653 news.xs4all.nl 2858 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38179 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86992 Chris Angelico writes: > * Two people then go back and forth about whether or not the previous > three posts were offensive. I called out a specific gendered slur as such. Nothing to do with “offense”, and I made no such claim. > The whole field of getting vicariously offended is a mess. It's a good thing I was not doing that, then. I was calling out an anti-female slur where I saw it. > All we have is people getting annoyed on behalf of an unspecified > person or group of people If you missed the specified group, I'll say it again: Anyone who is female had their gender used as though it were an insult. That's not welcoming to women, and if it goes unchallenged then we give the perception it is acceptable. It is not, so we must say so as clearly as we can. Where people have further misrepresented my complaint or my position, I've necessarily corrected them. Hopefully I've been clear enough that no-one needs to once more impute words or motivations to me that I never expressed. -- \ “The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more | `\ expected.” —Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd Ed., 1972-06-12 | _o__) | Ben Finney