Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; ';-)': 0.03; 'repository': 0.05; 'advice.': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; '-tkc': 0.16; 'commented': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'touch.': 0.19; 'code,': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'file.': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'comment': 0.34; "who's": 0.35; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'visual': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'entire': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'corporate': 0.67; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'inbox,': 0.91; 'archive.': 0.93 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:39:56 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Teaching python to non-programmers In-Reply-To: <5347d343$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <1ec8952c-f9c8-4f58-9eee-0707a4c89dee@googlegroups.com> <10c257bb-1b3c-410a-81cf-916136b3f8e6@googlegroups.com> <8c101063-9abe-49f1-a8ab-c5d7048079be@googlegroups.com> <79e36d43-6170-46a0-8f8e-9462f27efd2f@googlegroups.com> <5347d343$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397220002 news.xs4all.nl 2842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59443 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70130 On 2014-04-11 11:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> That's equivalent to being told "Don't ever delete any of your > >> code, just comment it out". I don't care who's saying that, it's > >> bad advice. =20 > >=20 > > The correct analogy: "Dont ever delete content from the > > repository" =20 >=20 > No -- the repository is the email archive. (Your inbox, perhaps.) > You don't keep a copy of the entire repo in every source file. Clearly you've not seen some of the corporate code-bases I've had to touch. =C2=ABshudder=C2=BB I still have nightmares about vast swaths of co= de commented out or "#ifdef 0"ed out. Then again, since they used Visual Source Safe, it might have been the smarter/safer option ;-) -tkc