Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.078 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.00; 'variant': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'missed': 0.12; 'commercially': 0.16; 'false):': 0.16; 'finds': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '(for': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'external': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; '(usually': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'proposing': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'according': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'chain': 0.60; 'guy': 0.60; 'story': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'bothered': 0.68; 'stated': 0.69; 'url:asp': 0.77; 'myself)': 0.84; 'url:business': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=66WtY7DjUxrFCvl4rVEpHockzRPzxf7YbeGhX7kOBN0=; b=gIHvu7FptabycnO0MO0r3QMS5ZmqdZCgtNofGs3yKQnxU2AJ186hyFuwKu7YHuETcc chV5VqutJESHr2aJ9YpJZah8bYCRI2Y/PFQCqd8dgtUtMyjOZQDEWdusLGYOYALzM8cw Pev3f/+wkgM6CbI2vm7RMocPbwUMFSit+NpE66jSiyHOf2MFqXQhxHKJPU1pHdoQ/eFD 8JljN704b9aEJ+qTtRRs5nuEwz9CO0dYqMP49hZfyr6vkgpoPKWx+i8esatnIB2R0E6T Cq/hA1Hdu3pb1CgvYGQ6oT2duKl9QKCOUS7Ogrgbg3R06luQmAqxhKE/ATCXS0aedPxy +vDQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.181.70 with SMTP id du6mr26348562pac.23.1397214106125; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 04:01:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1ec8952c-f9c8-4f58-9eee-0707a4c89dee@googlegroups.com> <10c257bb-1b3c-410a-81cf-916136b3f8e6@googlegroups.com> <8c101063-9abe-49f1-a8ab-c5d7048079be@googlegroups.com> <79e36d43-6170-46a0-8f8e-9462f27efd2f@googlegroups.com> <8761mg77k9.fsf@rudin.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:01:46 +1000 Subject: Re: Teaching python to non-programmers From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397214114 news.xs4all.nl 2975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55615 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70121 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM, alister wrote: > Right up to the point when someone forwards on an internal email chain to > an external customer without bothering to prune out the bit where someone > (usually an engineer like myself) has stated (bluntly) that what the > salesman is proposing will never work*. > > the longer the chain the more likely it is for something like that to be > missed by the sender who wont have bothered to read everything (for some > reason the recipient always finds the embarrassing statements). > > *Or some other commercially sensitive & even more damming piece of > information. According to Snopes, that has happened in an email variant of the old "send this guy the standard cockroach letter" story (which is itself plausible and not provably false): http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/bedbug.asp ChrisA