Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'wiki': 0.03; 'context': 0.07; 'duplicate': 0.07; 'decision.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gently': 0.16; 'once.': 0.16; 'retained': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'tend': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '"please': 0.31; 'helpful.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'forwarded': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'guy': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'forward': 0.65; 'situation': 0.65; 'corporate': 0.67; 'dont': 0.67; 'covers': 0.68; 'led': 0.72; 'emails.': 0.78; '*every': 0.84; 'medium.': 0.91; 'was:': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=M7/pK222jaOf7bk1W7m1h7VNLMBQhLEGsYcOj8rtdYM=; b=UXLnSDWp4mXjBPGad6UTNRJW4VjeERbK2khYs0TVTTQrkWnC/3D0J7D9GLWqAHDG0o 8EWbanH9WxqPWr2V44UpJxr9jrN587yEA4nmHN2UuscxQ55aSnWiUOIgw4qgv8O7z3gr kzyzefyEuPKufesu5yz37TgATJzQhhFRdcOkprNv2b9r907F2dxWV36JqsDCOG96TuHy qf3EWMUY2uhUyLDoMO41yyAs34yMk/tLN2jHKkNp6XPc2DvcZMcU1nvzxb5mc/XpfAB6 lbE8XNi4rMv11KuIf4vZCIculWx2E8Ghc47yZWwE08kps+32IkdTrU3o0vEowyV60L2o z7IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.235.6 with SMTP id ui6mr24465724pbc.45.1397194966178; Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:42:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8761mg77k9.fsf@rudin.co.uk> References: <1ec8952c-f9c8-4f58-9eee-0707a4c89dee@googlegroups.com> <10c257bb-1b3c-410a-81cf-916136b3f8e6@googlegroups.com> <8c101063-9abe-49f1-a8ab-c5d7048079be@googlegroups.com> <79e36d43-6170-46a0-8f8e-9462f27efd2f@googlegroups.com> <8761mg77k9.fsf@rudin.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:42:46 +1000 Subject: Re: Teaching python to non-programmers From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397194975 news.xs4all.nl 2894 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55572 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:70097 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Paul Rudin wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> What I was very gently and super politely told was: >>> "Please dont delete mail context" >> >> Then you were told that by someone who does not understand email. > > It's not necessarily a bad idea to retain context in corporate > emails. Messages tend to get forwarded to people other than the original > recipient(s), and the context can be very helpful. A good mail client will let you forward an entire thread all at once. That covers the use-case without polluting *every single email ever sent* with the entire history. Plus, a decent client should let you forward some without others, which would mean you don't have the awkward situation of sending someone all the internal discussion ("just send this guy the standard cockroach letter") that led to the final decision. Retaining context should either be done with an internal wiki or forum, or by reading up in the retained emails. You don't need to duplicate all context every post in any medium. ChrisA