Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'attribute': 0.05; 'cpython': 0.05; '*args,': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; '**kwargs)': 0.09; '**kwargs):': 0.09; 'dict': 0.09; 'does,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'def': 0.10; 'commit': 0.15; 'attributes.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'alternate': 0.17; 'have:': 0.17; 'code.': 0.20; 'assuming': 0.22; 'work.': 0.23; 'demonstrate': 0.23; 'tried': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'plain': 0.27; 'possible,': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'skip:_ 10': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; 'this.': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'could': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'guys': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'self': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'provide': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'results': 0.65; 'received:ac.uk': 0.65; 'potentially': 0.66; 'talking': 0.66; 'bench': 0.84; 'optimized,': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'subject:Using': 0.84; 'comment.': 0.91; 'angel': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Oscar Benjamin Subject: Re: Using dict as object Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:04:07 +0000 (UTC) References: <345da32c-a22b-4025-bb50-794d684885b1@googlegroups.com> <5059B062.8020108@davea.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: enm-ob.enm.bris.ac.uk User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1/mm/ao (Win32) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348063463 news.xs4all.nl 6931 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57046 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29493 On 2012-09-19, Dave Angel wrote: > On 09/19/2012 06:24 AM, Pierre Tardy wrote: >> All implementation I tried are much slower than a pure native dict access. >> Each implementation have bench results in commit comment. All of them >> are 20+x slower than plain dict! > > Assuming you're talking about CPython benchmarks, the dict is highly > optimized, C code. And when you provide your own __getitem__ > implementation in pure python, there are many attribute accesses, just to > make the code work. > >> I would like to have python guys advices on how one could optimize this. > I agree with all of Dave's objections to this idea. It is possible, however, to make a more efficient implementation than the one that you have: class Namespace(dict): def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs): dict.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs) self.__dict__ = self This implementation is not really sane, though, as it doesn't hide any of the dict methods as attributes. It does, however, demonstrate something that be a potentially simple way of making an alternate type object in C. Oscar