Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'languages,': 0.03; 'javascript,': 0.05; 'perl,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'c++,': 0.07; 'basic,': 0.09; 'counting': 0.09; 'php,': 0.09; 'sql,': 0.09; 'yet)': 0.09; 'language,': 0.14; 'subject:was': 0.15; '1:48': 0.16; 'assembly,': 0.16; 'erlang,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'haskell,': 0.16; 'head,': 0.16; 'lisp,': 0.16; 'prolog,': 0.16; 'subject:somewhat': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'developer,': 0.18; 'java,': 0.19; "aren't": 0.21; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.21; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'unlikely': 0.23; 'steve': 0.24; "i'm": 0.28; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'developers.': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'definition': 0.30; '22,': 0.30; 'either.': 0.30; 'granted,': 0.30; '(as': 0.31; 'cases': 0.32; "i've": 0.32; 'list': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.34; 'steven': 0.34; 'rather': 0.34; 'subject:Number': 0.34; 'typical': 0.34; 'probably': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; '...': 0.35; 'things': 0.35; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'skip:_ 10': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'somewhat': 0.38; 'used,': 0.38; 'could': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'couple': 0.38; 'think': 0.38; 'describe': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'application': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.61; 'talking': 0.62; 'is.': 0.63; 'love': 0.63; 'plus': 0.63; 'strange': 0.68; 'interests,': 0.73; 'learned': 0.73; 'average.': 0.84; 'howell': 0.84; 'rexx,': 0.84; 'dozen': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xSJuhoH0TbwVPHel/bSfW4u5jSCRfsh+qBbOjNO/EVI=; b=Ankyqpc4yxvrt3cIBTWsQ2wIXMoGuL/0UBAM/pWjxNyQP15jDowd/E35HwY4murgZk drf3B24CRj7XUvhvaQaWGAAmJcok+K2GrSNmc1Y1Frp6oXJSwA85M6/KTV8L9hU8kvJL qD/Zm5UdYkIHEmMqAZY1nH4CuWxX1xcTAY3kQ+U+DabBpnsj/mfo73txCuU0FKhJcJCB 6wou+eZHsh6aGCBnodd3bJNxNwc0zCXMyqmOXmqAuWDqi4u4jVMbVwD+T245as51wavG +E6dER7tqrvw1qbFfzvCIKPA3qkXNpdzn8lnOcOBrLMpGmHtfQpD60XMY++teV2pKLdA i97A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4f6bcdd5$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:05:14 +1100 Subject: Re: Number of languages known [was Re: Python is readable] - somewhat OT From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1332486317 news.xs4all.nl 6870 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48890 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:22063 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Steve Howell wrote: > On Mar 22, 6:11=A0pm, Steven D'Aprano +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> In any case, I'm not talking about the best developers. I'm talking abou= t >> the typical developer, who by definition is just average. They probably >> know reasonably well one to three of the half dozen most popular >> languages (VB, Java, C, C+, Javascript, PHP, Perl?) plus regexes and SQL= , >> and are unlikely to know any of Prolog, Lisp, Haskell, Hypertalk, >> Mercury, Cobra, Smalltalk, Ada, APL, Emerald, Inform, Forth, ... > > I love how you can rattle off 20 or so languages, just off the top of > your head, and not even mention Ruby. ;) If I were to rattle off a couple dozen languages, it probably wouldn't include Ruby either. Never learned it, don't (as yet) know what its advantage domain is. My list "runs somewhat thus": BASIC, 80x86 Assembly, C, C++, Java, REXX, Pascal, Pike, Perl, PHP, Javascript, DeScribe Macro Language, Scheme, Python, ActionScript, DOS Batch, Lua, COBOL, FORTRAN, Ada, Modula-2, LPC, Erlang, Haskell... and that's not counting things like POV-Ray or LilyPond that aren't exactly _programming_ languages, although in some cases you could shoehorn an application into them. Granted, I do have some rather strange and esoteric interests, and I'm sure that Ruby is far better known than DeScribe Macro Language (!!), but I think first of those I've used, and then of the most famous. Sorry Ruby. No slight meant! :) ChrisA