Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Late-binding of function defaults (was Re: What is a function parameter =[] for?) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 06:57:17 +1100 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <87d1v5emhl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <564e6a62$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <565592e9$0$1615$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <201511251559.tAPFxVm6020346@fido.openend.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de I+j7FpTyKFYCZatVs781Rg3RM1G+LHrA0QkdI1mJSMlQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:zhxAjF4HA4UknXi+7Ujji5fAJbg= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.023 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'creighton': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'underlying': 0.09; "'*'": 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:?)': 0.16; 'substituting': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'correct': 0.28; 'convention': 0.30; 'ourselves': 0.30; 'task': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'symbol': 0.33; 'instead': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'mean': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'leaving': 0.63; 'great': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'circle': 0.66; 'teaching': 0.69; 'truth': 0.79; '_o__)': 0.84; 'embrace': 0.84; 'humanity': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:99481 Laura Creighton writes: > The great sticking point for the children I am teaching is '*' means > multiplication. […] that one can swap out a particular convention 'x > means multiply' and swap in another one '* means multiply' while > leaving the underlying truth unchanged. Perhaps it would be easier if you point out that ‘x’ doesn't mean multiply either, and they've *already* been substituting that symbol instead of the correct ‘×’ for multiply. -- \ “Our task must be to free ourselves from our prison by widening | `\ our circle of compassion to embrace all humanity and the whole | _o__) of nature in its beauty.” —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney