Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.023 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'ugly': 0.07; 'clause': 0.09; 'raises': 0.09; "authors'": 0.16; 'backwards': 0.16; 'consistency.': 0.16; 'declared': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'garbage': 0.16; 'irks': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'this?': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'refers': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'evil': 0.31; 'follows': 0.31; 'implicit': 0.31; 'except': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'received:84': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'realize': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'subject': 0.69; 'designers': 0.74; 'attention': 0.75; 'intuit': 0.84; 'missing.': 0.84; 'emotional': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93; 'sick': 0.93 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=AOmsRbYa c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=tLkI8qN_j18A:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=0Y88USVMSQ-5YM2plNYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 18:47:50 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: threading References: <4a24f218-158a-4a21-af36-5cc69ce1f7e1@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397065677 news.xs4all.nl 2963 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33341 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69970 On 2014-04-09 16:51, Rick Johnson wrote: [snip] > > 3. It irks me that language designers pay no attention > to consistency. > > And the evil incarnation of the IMPLICIT PRONOUN raises > it's ugly head!!! > The pronoun isn't implicit, because it's actually present! (And it's "its ugly head", BTW.) > Again we have the pronoun "it" declared as the very first > word of the sentence, however, the referent is missing, and > instead must be intuited! But the fun does not stop there > people, NO-NO-NO, after you go to all the work required to > intuit the referent, you then immediately realize that the > referent is *SUPERFLUOUS* and needs garbage collection! What > sort of sick joke is this? Heck, we have not even considered > the emotional states that must be mustered to empathize > with the authors' intent!!! > The referent isn't missing. The "it" refers to the postcedent clause "that language designers..." that's the subject of the verb "irks". (A postcedent is like an antecendent, except that it refers forwards to something that follows instead of backwards to something that preceded.)