Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'plenty': 0.07; 'so?': 0.07; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'terms,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'exception': 0.13; 'ignore': 0.14; 'discussions': 0.15; 'direct,': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'relevant,': 0.16; 'remain,': 0.16; 'responses.': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'contribute': 0.16; 'case.': 0.18; 'example.': 0.18; 'project,': 0.18; 'contributed': 0.20; 'basis,': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'attached.': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'helpful': 0.27; 'boundaries': 0.29; 'asked': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'posts': 0.30; 'core': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; "he's": 0.33; 'him.': 0.33; 'clear': 0.35; 'question,': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; '(with': 0.38; "won't": 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'show': 0.62; 'real': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'civil': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'you.': 0.64; 'cameron': 0.66; 'him,': 0.67; 'received:61': 0.72; 'topic,': 0.79; 'refuses': 0.84; 'subject:civil': 0.84; 'undertake': 0.84; 'glad': 0.87; 'approach.': 0.91; 'notable': 0.91; 'same,': 0.91; 'urge': 0.91 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using ID cskk@bigpond.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=RsdH3VaK c=1 sm=1 a=KXF3ZidSHoVlwM/AP3EliQ==:17 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=yEdEr6MRgwAA:10 a=zOBTXjUuO1YA:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=ocktUB-OhExH5wpm2JIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7qi6WkXLYDP0pTqY:21 a=qI2nOxlwISAcJaq-:21 a=KXF3ZidSHoVlwM/AP3EliQ==:117 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:41:02 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: on keeping things civil (was: Encoding of Python 2 string literals) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) References: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437643290 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36719 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94434 On 22Jul2015 22:26, Mark Lawrence wrote: >He refuses point blank to contribute to core python because he will not sign the CLA. So? That's his prerogative. There's plenty of work I won't undertake because of the conditions attached. Defense/military comes to mind as an example. >Oh, and please do not tell me to back off. It has been show in recent >days that despite my problems I have contributed to core Python. >Anatoly will contribute to any project, but on his terms, and his >terms only. Shrug. I'm the same, and I suspect in real terms so are you. It is just where the boundaries lie that differ. He asked a simple, direct, on topic, relevant, clear question, with a clear use case. As far as I'm concerned he's entirely welcome, and I'm glad he's received what look like informative and somewhat helpful responses. (With the notable exception of your response and now, regrettably, mine.) If you don't want to deal with him, then don't deal with him. That means shutting up, not mouthing off. On a personal basis, I have found the best way to keep discussions civil and on point is to simply ignore posts and posters which incite anger in me. I urge you to consider this approach. Venting, I remain, Cameron Simpson