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From: James Brewer To: Rick Johnson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160adf8d6dd1704f68db4af X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:49:03 +0200 Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 110 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1397000944 news.xs4all.nl 2944 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39770 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69909 --089e0160adf8d6dd1704f68db4af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > > Judging from your childish optimism and bombastic > expectations that the onerous of scholastic achievements lay > solely in the prowess of your teacher, i can only conclude > that you are yet another recent graduate of one of the > "fine universities" that happily rob naive parents of their > life savings and then infect the professional world with > plagues of self-absorbed little lazy a-holes who think they > offload their workload on everyone else. > > So you want to be taught eh? Maybe you should consider this > little "tidbit"... > > "When the pupil is ready, the master will appear" > > And now allow me to "female dog" slap you back in to reality > about your new found "masters" -- you know, the ones you so > kindly refer to as "co-workers"... > > > They are not going to help you! > > They are not going to teach you! > > Heck, they may not even point you in the direction of > the lavatory when you need to tinkle! > > No, these people are your mortal enemies. They will smile to > your pimpled face and then stick a knife in your back -- not > much unlike the trolls around here! > > Listen kid; working is competition, a competition to the > death, and only the stupidest of stupid person would train > their replacement! > > So what is a boy to do? > > I would suggest you learn a little self reliance. Go and > read some tutorials, learn a new language, try to challenge > yourself to build something that is beyond your skill level. > Short of that you'll always be Bubba's "female dog". > > Good day! > You're an interesting fellow. Also, I didn't graduate; I dropped out. --089e0160adf8d6dd1704f68db4af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@g= mail.com> wrote:
Judging from your childish optimism and bombastic
expectations that the onerous of scholastic achievements lay
solely in the prowess of your teacher, i can only conclude
that you are yet another recent graduate of one of the
"fine universities" that happily rob naive parents of their
life savings and then infect the professional world with
plagues of self-absorbed little lazy a-holes who think they
offload their workload on everyone else.

So you want to be taught eh? Maybe you should consider this
little "tidbit"...

=A0 =A0"When the pupil is ready, the master will appear"

And now allow me to "female dog" slap you back in to reality
about your new found "masters" -- you know, the ones you so
kindly refer to as "co-workers"...


=A0 =A0 They are not going to help you!

=A0 =A0 They are not going to teach you!

=A0 =A0 Heck, they may not even point you in the direction of
=A0 =A0 the lavatory when you need to tinkle!

No, these people are your mortal enemies. They will smile to
your pimpled face and then stick a knife in your back -- not
much unlike the trolls around here!

Listen kid; working is competition, a competition to the
death, and only the stupidest of stupid person would train
their replacement!

=A0 =A0 So what is a boy to do?

I would suggest you learn a little self reliance. Go and
read some tutorials, learn a new language, try to challenge
yourself to build something that is beyond your skill level.
Short of that you'll always be Bubba's "female dog".

Good day!

You're an interesting fellow. Also, I didn't = graduate; I dropped out.

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