Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; '"""': 0.07; '-people': 0.09; 'mixed': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'saying.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'exists': 0.24; 'helpful': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'post.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'projects.': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'classes': 0.35; 'beyond': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'patient': 0.36; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'url:2012': 0.39; 'you.': 0.62; 'great': 0.65; 'duty': 0.68; 'url:wordpress': 0.78; 'find.': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'subject:find': 0.84; 'theories': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'dream': 0.95; 'subject:OFF': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EcoOfY4XfLPKNzsEDOTkSopjeC1l9HBmUFTkHYFGy8k=; b=wLfwgqpTDXrtAcqIMAvKidlj2iUihcbB7Y4ROeb3AZL9zCw75uwUlEnMPaLgBcKm7n /3A/8JJeJZDgymfOwvPe242uDnDwnifyL6IW/w5tfE7KhctqLwshOniYLMonb8tz8JGI tsdarmie3uRairBQfI7NbYTZL/TfwKeHrQ4hce5KfiSuSy67/KYiDCCGm1A6wiKZ7CSr HPwddu3UUBD9XKQrUVF+4+ah/uBHTZHUuRKi4RUc8FZVLOi8EAmiKJkvtLjCug0HKVDE /Q2Z3rt+nxi/JRjcOlATOHzHdbulG8zztSHA0E6DYJkoX12QqZtn6R5NerfWTifG/VlX MI0w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.142.201 with SMTP id ry9mr6165812pab.14.1396977506361; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:18:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53442760$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <201404081114.57345.gheskett@wdtv.com> <53442760$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 03:18:26 +1000 Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] How do I find a mentor when no one I work with knows what they are doing? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1396977509 news.xs4all.nl 2887 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39808 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69888 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:38:42 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>>> -People are super patient and helpful and they answer all your >>>> questions and go beyond the call of duty to help you. >>> >>> A utopia very few will ever find. >> >> In corporate, yes, it's rare. But it's a lot less rare in open source >> projects. I could go into my theories as to why, but it'd make for a >> long post. > > http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/java-shop-politics/ Yeah, that goes into several of the reasons I would have been saying. It also has some great quotes. """ C++ exists because someone had a fever dream in which these two classes of vehicles got mixed up and thought, =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m going to= put wings on a [bleep] tank=E2=80=9D. """ ChrisA