Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'svn': 0.04; 'git': 0.07; "shouldn't": 0.07; 'machines.': 0.09; 'subject:tools': 0.09; 'weekend.': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.11; 'say,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '-tkc': 0.16; 'bzr': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'git.': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'message-id:@tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'previously,': 0.16; 'rampant': 0.16; 'received:70.251': 0.16; 'received:dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:swbell.net': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.16; 'versions': 0.18; "wouldn't": 0.18; 'writes:': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'interface': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'right,': 0.22; 'so.': 0.22; '(though': 0.23; 'debian': 0.23; "they've": 0.23; 'worked': 0.24; 'version': 0.25; "i'm": 0.26; 'tried': 0.27; 'thanks': 0.29; 'changes': 0.29; 'aspect': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; '(since': 0.31; 'chase': 0.31; 'improvements': 0.31; 'overcome': 0.31; 'start.': 0.31; "can't": 0.31; '2009': 0.32; "i've": 0.33; 'several': 0.33; 'sometimes': 0.33; 'reference': 0.34; 'received:70': 0.34; 'got': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'running': 0.36; 'enough': 0.37; 'user': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'used': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'though': 0.38; 'tim': 0.39; 'somewhat': 0.39; 'stable': 0.39; 'takes': 0.40; 'count': 0.40; 'would': 0.40; "it's": 0.40; 'took': 0.64; 'worth': 0.64; 'glad': 0.64; 'improving': 0.69; 'designed': 0.69; 'become': 0.70; 'biggest': 0.71; 'encountered': 0.73; '(c.': 0.84; 'slow,': 0.84; 'speed,': 0.84; 'speedy': 0.84; 'trickle': 0.84; 'pro': 0.89; 'comparable': 0.91; 'probe': 0.91 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:13:37 -0500 From: Tim Chase User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Finney Subject: Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools X-Priority: 4 (Low) References: <58a6bb1b-a98e-4c4a-86ea-09e040cb2d21@r35g2000prj.googlegroups.com> <201104270442.15810.akabaila@pcug.org.au> <87liywmmyl.fsf@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: <87liywmmyl.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1303931624 news.xs4all.nl 81473 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:40249 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:4152 On 04/26/2011 09:45 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Tim Chase writes: >> Bazaar (bzr) >> ============ >> Cons: >> - was slow, though I understand they've worked on improving this > > Right, that's not a count against Bazaar for at least the last several > versions (since 2009 at least). Bazaar is easily fast enough for > anything people use, say, Mercurial for. Glad to hear. That was my biggest beef with bzr when I tried it (c. 2008), so if they've got that working well, it's worth my time to revisit. Do you have a reference for timing improvements against version number ("in version x.y, action Z took N ms; in version x.[y+1], action Z took N-M ms")? I'm running Debian Stable and sometimes it takes a little while for these features to trickle down. But I *hope* changes in 2009 would have made it in by now :) >> Git (git) >> ========= >> Pros: >> - good documentation (though somewhat scattered) > > Hmm. Can't really overcome the rampant NIH syndrome: there is a lot that > shouldn't *need* so much documentation if the interface were better > designed from the start. I wouldn't count this as a pro for Git. Yeah, I've encountered that aspect of the abundant documentation on Git. :) >> So that said, I've become a Mercurial user because the interface was >> close to SVN which I used previously, and it was speedy on my older >> machines. If bzr has come up to comparable speed, I'd be game to probe >> it again. > > I recommend doing so. Thanks for giving me something to do this weekend. :) -tkc