Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'language,': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'generators.': 0.16; "he'd": 0.16; 'layout,': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'stories,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'basically': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'things.': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'coding': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'logical': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(although': 0.31; 'consequence': 0.31; 'helpful.': 0.31; 'larry': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'style': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'one,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'programming,': 0.36; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; "couldn't": 0.39; 'functional': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'issues,': 0.61; 'high': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'telling': 0.64; 'kept': 0.65; 'bothered': 0.68; 'day': 0.76; 'introduce': 0.78; 'heh.': 0.84; 'or:': 0.84; 'subject:find': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'subject:OFF': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=rOW2FklbT+5opvcbS61sQySOwwxZmxJaefzEjRnKukU=; b=0TzbVY8e8YkXZtzR3dUDY26nVPqO/Kw3Ps46UHelMzf21y5zEiIBnGs0ID9uuUT/K3 3G37BIR6yfXzvTYuyLthlgMJp5cnEsIDB1ywjB6U+QmUUfFMWoXEp3LE5X7ZBFSp9NHQ h/oj2dpAPUq+rS03y0tqRZ7W42CcCD1KUGYUSv92X1sRySOi31uMlu4lF6o1yc0bF7mK K4fwRHRvd13b+MDyV0CKtjvFXBtFHY3Ah4Eh8xYL8klR+X1xwrvdVY1MySG8VLPITj8K +rsKoWx3lfJv7bVe0M3+S2HtQ6tMxBkjhkyQONKhvB9ESP5jqQtBd3j2ixaeuatESFpD 0WGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.230.166 with SMTP id sz6mr5367827pac.127.1396971209272; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 08:33:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 01:33:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] How do I find a mentor when no one I work with knows what they are doing? From: Chris Angelico Cc: Python List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1396971212 news.xs4all.nl 2952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45850 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69873 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > Or: The boss is a former programmer, perhaps even a very good one, but > he's not at all involved with the day to day issues, but still wants > to tell you how to do things. Heh. The boss was a bit like that at my last job. Kept telling me stories of how he programmed some microcontroller in its assembly language... if I wanted to kill time, they were interesting stories, but if I wanted to get some work done in a high level language, they weren't particularly helpful. He also was majorly stuck in a concrete style of coding - consequence of assembly language programming, I think - and couldn't wrap his head around logical layout, functional styles, that kind of thing. I dread to think what he'd be like with Haskell or LISP; I wouldn't even have dared introduce him to Python's generators. (Although he probably wouldn't have been bothered by generators. He was majorly turned off by the whole thing of significant whitespace and basically just told me "there will be no Python here". Bah.) ChrisA