Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'engineer.': 0.07; 'django,': 0.09; 'modeling,': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'api': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'crud': 0.16; 'frankly': 0.16; 'from:addr:james': 0.16; 'perceived': 0.16; 'should.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'to:name:python list': 0.16; 'do.': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'things.': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'nearly': 0.26; 'point': 0.28; 'direction': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'there,': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'basic': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'question,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'ability': 0.39; 'subject:[': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'algorithms': 0.60; 'contributing': 0.60; 'offer': 0.62; 'information': 0.63; 'design,': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'started.': 0.68; 'eight': 0.74; 'day': 0.76; 'received:209.85.215.42': 0.84; 'received:mail-la0-f42.google.com': 0.84; 'subject:find': 0.84; 'subject:OFF': 0.95 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JuGu3VIetMcFtgujmKm1ceNotB27irqNbL0WEq+tKrQ=; b=JNTSP0vVYog+V0NQIrY8hYuSjPTcBR7N/Zfm1sDKXEy+JXfK25w9lckGQ/0gksB57u yJuOZvoJXhenRA5JLkdoJHWrt6hGzvrxsEAiqkoDpw4ldeFdk1MGsPxEElnQoNVeHV1S ryLFJZe1cEgdYpJGdqvlKVPSNma9wTsKcE+p014F1+q1O/zqTNF0BBkQEul/Vw/nC9Pq GGv2eWYUjLv+PGXNysoeFu4MnOX/CbYkpKaDKUfpQ/GeathRBECn8CEYCX2LkxruBVx/ OXxJlUtwjx7ffe+bwyEpPbWhiTu5UqZpxbzqAxiYvD8/Sc7yevHSGB2/AJ2npKvzlHqy Tyow== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkW04kjVBnDCVfJFBaOHTYzkCxVgWjbi2RttlbnY0AC5QjSINkkV5k6kg39dhrcVT0/5Q8i MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.23.169 with SMTP id n9mr415008laf.45.1396940847279; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 00:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 00:07:27 -0700 Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] How do I find a mentor when no one I work with knows what they are doing? From: James Brewer To: Python List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160b99af97f3204f682a2c7 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1396940855 news.xs4all.nl 2907 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58337 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69835 --089e0160b99af97f3204f682a2c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance perceived from this question, but frankly I don't think that I have anything to learn from my co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and I know that I have a lot of learning to do. I've been employed as a software engineer for about eight months now and I feel like I haven't learned nearly as much as I should. Sure, I've picked up little tidbits of information here and there, but I'm no more confident in my ability to build anything more complex than a basic crud app than I was the day I started. Things I'm interested include contributing to both Python and Django, database design and data modeling, API design, code quality, algorithms and data structures, and software architecture, among other things. Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I find someone willing to point me in the right direction and what can I offer in return? Happy Monday! James --089e0160b99af97f3204f682a2c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogan= ce perceived from this question, but frankly I don't think that I have = anything to learn from my co-workers, which saddens me because I really lik= e to learn and I know that I have a lot of learning to do.

I've been employed as a software engineer for about eigh= t months now and I feel like I haven't learned nearly as much as I shou= ld. Sure, I've picked up little tidbits of information here and there, = but I'm no more confident in my ability to build anything more complex = than a basic crud app than I was the day I started.

Things I'm interested include contributing to both = Python and Django, database design and data modeling, API design, code qual= ity, algorithms and data structures, and software architecture, among other= things.

Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I = find someone willing to point me in the right direction and what can I offe= r in return?

Happy Monday!

James
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