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On 09/03/2015 10:15 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> The only person whom I see talking about this in this thread is you
> disclaiming that you're not talking about it. (And I guess Skybuck is
> talking about it, but I don't see those.)

I have a vague memory of Skybuck talking about globals over a year ago.
That must be what tdev's responding to.

Sadly Skybuck probably ditched Python a long time ago as he was spending
his time trying to make it into Java rather than taking advantage of
idiomatic Python programming.  Those that try to program Java style in
Python are going to be frustrated.