Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'appropriate.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'disregard': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'mark,': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'python3.': 0.16; 'quoted': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'examples': 0.20; 'example': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '2.2': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'quickly': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'entirely': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; 'leads': 0.36; 'right?': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'material': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'then,': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'introduced': 0.61; 'no.': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'act': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'became': 0.64; 'stand': 0.64; 'relatively': 0.65; 'subject:this': 0.83; 'received:125': 0.84; 'sweeping': 0.84; 'tone': 0.84; 'habit': 0.91; 'catalogue': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:53:55 +1100 References: <9daf0806-02de-4447-964c-c8f8953c23e5@googlegroups.com> <532d5bd9$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87ior3w740.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5334c38e$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53364327$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53365F55.2040302@gmail.com> <533836c4$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xBD41714B X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 9CFE 12B0 791A 4267 887F 520C B7AC 2E51 BD41 714B X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DG9MtfN0dlDExXHJbXWKdBIyMAE= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1396248859 news.xs4all.nl 2830 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56837 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69412 Mark, you are demonstrating a habit of making sweeping pronouncements and assertions; and then, when those statements are challenged, you act as though you never said them. Here's a characteristic example: Mark H Harris writes: > On 3/30/14 10:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > Mark H Harris writes: > >> I didn't really start using unicode until about 5 years ago; python > >> has only really used it since python3. right? > > > > No. Python 2.2 introduced Unicode. > > I didn't ask when it was introduced, I asked when it became useful? That's clearly not what you asked, in the material you quoted above; and Steven's answer to your actual false assertion is entirely appropriate. There are many other examples in this thread, but I'm not seeking to catalogue them; merely to show an example of what I'm observing. I hope you can see that this behaviour quickly leads many people to quite reasonably disregard your assertions in general, and even to ignore you altogether. Do you think you can tone down the rhetoric and perhaps stand by the statements you actually make? -- \ “Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice.” | `\ —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney