Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.075 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:help': 0.08; 'correct,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'language,': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'finney': 0.16; 'isnt': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'using,': 0.16; "hasn't": 0.19; 'pieces': 0.19; 'examples': 0.20; 'input': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'posting': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'loads': 0.31; 'own,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'advice': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'york': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'replies': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; "you'll": 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'needing': 0.65; 'american': 0.66; 'dont': 0.67; 'difficulty': 0.68; 'family': 0.73; 'foreign': 0.74; 'eyes': 0.78; 'yourself': 0.78; 'short,': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'television': 0.91; '\xe2\x80\x9cthe': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; 'responses': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: How to help us to help you (was: Image manipulation) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:05:51 +1100 References: <67342b91-2ca5-46e9-b887-cda31fe96697@googlegroups.com> <52541618$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <76c0f0ac-1135-4860-85f1-abbba09b54bc@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rasputin.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:z2W0gcorDUcCRs++Z7AptnxIM/0= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1381266363 news.xs4all.nl 15948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56598 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56443 markotaht@gmail.com writes: > Well english isnt my native language, and there are things i just dont > know how to explain in any language. I sympathise with attempting to explain things in a foreign language. Sorry that you have that difficulty here. But the rest of Steven's advice is sound: you need to help us to help you. One way to do that: Please don't use Google Groups to post here, it mangles your replies in ways that make it difficult for you to be understood . > And i cant give all the codes i am using, since there are loads of > pieces i do not own, but i know the people who made them. So you need to present examples that are short, self-contained, correct, compilable . That may entail you writing the examples for the purpose of posting them here; but do run them yourself before posting! You'll often learn about the problem without needing our input if you do it that way. And if you don't, then you have a tool that will definitely get you better responses here. -- \ “The problem with television is that the people must sit and | `\ keep their eyes glued on a screen: the average American family | _o__) hasn't time for it.” —_The New York Times_, 1939 | Ben Finney