Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'explicit': 0.07; 'odd': 0.07; 'subject:two': 0.07; 'subject:None': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '"is': 0.16; 'background,': 0.16; 'chained': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'it;': 0.16; 'means.': 0.16; 'side.': 0.16; 'variables,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'value.': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mathematical': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'possibly': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; '(usually': 0.31; 'are.': 0.31; 'constant': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'sense': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'more': 0.64; '30,': 0.65; 'within': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'mar': 0.68; 'line,': 0.68; 'nobody': 0.68; 'min': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EzQuztP/CVA+KkRRuiXnU8YcIR+t+MuDCg0kgKtFIwI=; b=YAhqdiNspuiDKuSI9KxrQZonQxrts4LP+wxICOHfALoRHUvGNzzx2A0R9D6ukTtRhi AJqWbwpr47BEdEkKgJxbnJrHBu625IFGgqqb5rbW3cY7+GNQENdAkXFlNNi51QqwCLJX ku+cWdbLaMPtPGfJSpJdpPhYzxhJnpx38P0BQKmR13o5fltWtfBwV/OFZhpTNDlmJBcx qmSu4u3wWmsrW6J8iQMgnOHVgcEnQwZu2yZIimeBT2f7hUswhyPefm+OGNlyo+89Guic MudZVquVbXpYawxbjpBvQU7KXrSpVd8YQ3KV6REjBDzOy3hPfM63XA27NucfYFcIM1XA 16FA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.197.8 with SMTP id iq8mr323540pbc.124.1396165009556; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 00:36:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85wqfcmb54.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <0245aca0-c6b7-493a-aa52-2c3ef6462dbd@googlegroups.com> <5337195f$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53377b9e$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5337b182$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85wqfcmb54.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:36:49 +1100 Subject: Re: checking if two things do not equal None From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1396165018 news.xs4all.nl 2899 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59028 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69382 On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Ben Finney wr= ote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> The problem isn't that I can't see what the comparisons are. It makes >> very good sense to bound a variable within constants; but you already >> know exactly where 2 is on the number line, so asking "Is 2 between >> these two variables" seems a bit odd. Maybe it's less so with the >> strong mathematical background, but it seems odd to me. > > I don't feel odd about asking the question =E2=80=9CIs 2 between these tw= o > values?=E2=80=9D. It's straightforward and concise. Can you explain bette= r why > you find it odd? Possibly because the "variable between two constants" is something I've done often (usually in the more explicit form of "x > min && x < max" in a language without chained comparisons), usually bounds-checking some value. I've never had to ask whether a single constant has two variables, one on either side. But that's just that I've personally never done it; it doesn't mean nobody does it, by any means. ChrisA