Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'suggest': 0.14; 'be:': 0.16; 'devs': 0.16; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'sign;': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'normally': 0.19; 'meant': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'issue,': 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'tracker': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'core': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'responsible': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'lists.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'show': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'balance,': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: YADTR (Yet Another DateTime Rant) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:24:45 -0400 References: <53336df8$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1395973511 news.xs4all.nl 2878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40616 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69240 On 3/27/2014 9:59 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> On 3/27/2014 5:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> On 3/27/2014 7:42 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> >>>> In any case... what I'd suggest would be opening a tracker issue, or >>>> discussing this on python-ideas, and seeing what core devs think of >>>> the matter. I think that, on balance, it's probably better to show the >>>> whole thing with the same sign; but should it be: >>> >>> Before doing so, I suggest looking for the design discussion either on >>> the tracker or in python-ideas or py-dev lists. >> >> And skip the troll word 'braindead'. > I apologize for my poor choice of vocabulary. I actually meant if you post on the tracker or python-ideas. There is a little more leeway here. But as you maybe noticed. even here a trollish word can divert discussion from you main point. Back to your main point: the current output looks strange to me also. But I did not follow the datetime development discussion. I do know that the people responsible are not normally braindead ;-). -- Terry Jan Reedy