Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.040 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '>the': 0.16; 'computes': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'str()': 0.16; 'value.': 0.19; 'print': 0.22; 'delta': 0.24; 'url:home': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'supposed': 0.32; 'ago': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'like,': 0.36; 'module.': 0.36; 'set.': 0.36; 'skip:> 10': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'represent': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'hours': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'periodically': 0.68; 'roles': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'day': 0.76; 'imagine': 0.93; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: YADTR (Yet Another DateTime Rant) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:25:45 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-68-176-95.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1395876355 news.xs4all.nl 2837 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49681 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:69152 On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:58:27 -0400, Roy Smith declaimed the following: >One of my roles on this newsgroup is to periodically whine about >stupidities in the Python datetime module. This is one of those times. > >I have some code which computes how long ago the sun set. Being a nice >pythonista, I'm using a timedelta to represent this value. It would be >difficult to imagine a less useful default way to print a timedelta: > >previous sunset: -1 day, 22:25:26.295993 > >The idea of str() is that it's supposed to return a human-friendly >representation of a value. Humans do not say things like, "The sun set >1 day ago plus 22 hours and 25 minutes". Makes sense to me -- the key being time DELTA... IE, a difference from some (unspecified) instance in time... If you want an instance of time, you need to add some known instance and the delta value. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/