Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'say,': 0.05; '"as': 0.07; 'failing': 0.07; 'plenty': 0.07; 'subject:support': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; '(unicode': 0.09; 'complicate': 0.09; 'escape': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'fails.': 0.16; 'guilty': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86.74': 0.16; 'received:smtp.webfaction.com': 0.16; 'received:webfaction.com': 0.16; 'rule.': 0.16; 'saying.': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'url:browse_thread': 0.16; 'url:thread': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'recognize': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; 'way?': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; '-----': 0.33; 'implemented': 0.33; 'totally': 0.33; 'test': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'url:group': 0.63; 'provide': 0.64; 'account': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; '21st': 0.68; 'fonts': 0.84; 'tex': 0.84; 'url:lang': 0.84; 'mean.': 0.91 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:22:44 -0400 From: Ned Batchelder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmfauth Subject: Re: Is Unicode support so hard... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366478585 news.xs4all.nl 2263 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49563 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43959 On 4/20/2013 1:12 PM, jmfauth wrote: > In a previous post, > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/6aec70817705c226# > , > > Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: > > “Is Unicode support so hard, especially in the 21st century?” > > -- > > Unicode is not really complicate and it works very well (more > than two decades of development if you take into account > iso-14****). > > But, - I can say, "as usual" - people prefer to spend their > time to make a "better Unicode than Unicode" and it usually > fails. Python does not escape to this rule. > > ----- > > I'm "busy" with TeX (unicode engine variant), fonts and typography. > This gives me plenty of ideas to test the "flexible string > representation" (FSR). I should recognize this FSR is failing > particulary very well... > > I can almost say, a delight. > > jmf > Unicode lover I'm totally confused about what you are saying. What does "make a better Unicode than Unicode" mean? Are you saying that Python is guilty of this? In what way? Can you provide specifics? Or are you saying that you like how Python has implemented it? "FSR is failing ... a delight"? I don't know what you mean. --Ned.