Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'toolkit': 0.09; 'windows,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'confuse': 0.16; 'received:188.174': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:mnet-online.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'ubuntu,': 0.16; 'users.': 0.18; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'him.': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'programming.': 0.30; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'ubuntu': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'experience.': 0.67; 'friend': 0.79 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Sibylle Koczian Subject: Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:10:58 +0200 References: <9ba1d90b-1a69-4e5a-8a9e-574009b0bdf3@fs2g2000pbd.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-188-174-116-140.dynamic.mnet-online.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 In-Reply-To: <9ba1d90b-1a69-4e5a-8a9e-574009b0bdf3@fs2g2000pbd.googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366474272 news.xs4all.nl 2234 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38730 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43956 Am 19.04.2013 19:42, schrieb lcrocker: > I understand that for something like a server distribution, but Ubuntu > is a user-focused desktop distribution. It has a GUI, always. The > purpose of a distro like that is to give users a good experience. If I > install Python on Windows, I get to use Python. On Ubuntu, I don't, > and I think that will confuse some users. I recently recommended > Python to a friend who wants to start learning programming. Hurdles > like this don't help someone like him. It's _so_ easy to install an additional package on Ubuntu that that really shouldn't be called a 'hurdle'. Using tkinter or any other GUI toolkit is much more difficult for a beginner.