Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Christopher Reimer Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: for / while else doesn't make sense Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 05:19:01 -0700 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5742bacb$0$1526$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zirgrgol.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <21745CE1-A5BA-4B24-86BF-0B64DA0C886E@icloud.com> <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <87h9dm8ld9.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de zQmohmi1Ssn+LKKFSRRw2QChGu9Qh+MusC+3WBStoQXA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.052 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; '8-bit': 0.16; 'processors': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'url:iso': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'ascii': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; 'chris': 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.26; 'dos': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'ansi': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'received:10.0.0': 0.32; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'according': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.39; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'header:MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'internet,': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'computers': 0.70; "1980's.": 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84; 'grew': 0.91 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-05-25_07:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1605250153 Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and wrapped. X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-reply-to: <87h9dm8ld9.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=4d515a; t=1464178743; bh=dSpT7yEhxEfv1Nh9g6g+JA4vk/gN3iEQoBPhXqWYjSc=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=YhvyeyHyedE6tFlNRQskwDuwX4VQutWYggTvG6ZRpDUx0NVudmaGrhkQ2Y/Xx3v5F /P89ZPma2dccy2Q/0uTl9o4ahNH5iTYSNDbwKGunuDebrC78aMDi8TttPIo4NSEgml ub8I5+4Acz+PsS7x9qfRNFHusAESUAHI20pRilz9niokFYARgmUcL6J9FH3+6WbWNf r/ZGNdptLs6QeY6+MOYFnSwFMLRjqq4BhRZvso36ehU00+TyIIwcXsiXJoRJ1fvqIA ce0PVWKdK5N5ZsBgvaeGk3Ef177zWt3t4xM44OzAWU86uOfsjrJK83ZsjyJp9gTBpV AIVhgeFCMmxYg== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5742bacb$0$1526$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zirgrgol.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <21745CE1-A5BA-4B24-86BF-0B64DA0C886E@icloud.com> <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <87h9dm8ld9.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109114 > On May 25, 2016, at 3:47 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >=20 > Christopher Reimer : >=20 >> Back in the early 1980's, I grew up on 8-bit processors and latin-1 was >> all we had for ASCII. >=20 > You really were very advanced. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1#History>, ISO 8859-1 was > standardized in 1985. "Eight-bit-cleanness" became a thing in the early > 1990's. Apparently, I wasn't. According to the Internet, which can't be wrong, many o= f the 8-bit computers in the early 1980's were based on 1960's ASCII with so= me non-standard characters tossed in. Latin-1 probably came during my DOS da= ys in the 1990's. As for ISO 8859-1, the standard was approved in 1985 but it was based on the= character set for the first ANSI standard terminal, DEC VT-2200, that came o= ut in 1983. Still early 1980's. ;) Thank you, Chris R.=