Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Gene Heskett Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Puzzled Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 08:21:42 -0500 Lines: 102 Message-ID: References: <4CFEDC132D44AC49BA0E91FBEB947119084A742852@DCBL123VX.root.sutterhealth.org> <201511052310.tA5NAjAk026602@fido.openend.se> <4CFEDC132D44AC49BA0E91FBEB947119084A8D60B8@DCBL123VX.root.sutterhealth.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de +WgvR7DaTlv2dHYj4lGxRwLVdQwtKRWNgC57LpCwNQiQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'startup': 0.05; 'correct.': 0.07; 'works.': 0.07; 'attachment.': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'enormous': 0.09; 'nameerror:': 0.09; 'typed': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'thursday,': 0.13; 'missed': 0.15; 'interpreter': 0.15; 'message-----': 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; 'variables': 0.15; 'basic.': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'stripped': 0.16; 'those,': 0.16; 'traceback.': 0.16; 'uninstall': 0.16; 'wendy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; 'posted': 0.21; 'meant': 0.22; '"",': 0.22; '64-bit': 0.22; 'see:': 0.22; 'cheers,': 0.22; 'defined': 0.23; 'bit': 0.23; 'help.': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; '(most': 0.24; 'thus': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'installed': 0.26; 'linux': 0.26; 'back.': 0.27; 'see,': 0.27; 'yesterday': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; "skip:' 10": 0.28; '---': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; 'if,': 0.29; 'environment': 0.29; 'work.': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'morning': 0.32; 'though,': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'skip:- 10': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'worked': 0.34; 'server': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'gives': 0.35; 'sent:': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'cc:': 0.35; 'happened': 0.35; 'nov': 0.35; 'skip:> 10': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'subject:': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'basic': 0.36; 'monday,': 0.36; 'url:non- standard http port': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'there,': 0.37; 'available.': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'received:66': 0.38; 'delete': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'material': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'from:': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'url:3': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'caused': 0.61; 'tracking': 0.61; 'programs': 0.62; 'federal': 0.62; 'is.': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'contact': 0.66; 'thursday': 0.66; 'phone': 0.68; 'reply': 0.68; 'received:204': 0.75; 'sole': 0.76; 'prompt': 0.79; '5.2.1': 0.84; 'sort.': 0.84; 'url:tutorial': 0.91; 'audit': 0.93; 'responses': 0.93; 'hand,': 0.97 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) In-Reply-To: <4CFEDC132D44AC49BA0E91FBEB947119084A8D60B8@DCBL123VX.root.sutterhealth.org> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:98351 On Thursday 05 November 2015 19:04:35 Robinson, Wendy wrote: > Hmmm... fair enough. I sent the traceback though, on Monday. If you sent a traceback on Monday, it wasn't seen by this list. Do not 'attach' it to the message, but include it as the list server=20 might have stripped an attachment. > I'll give the intro a read again. I've probably missed something > basic. > > Wendy Robinson > Audit Analyst > (916)=C2=A0566-4994 phone > > > > NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is for the sole use of the > intended recipient and may contain material that is confidential and > protected by state and federal regulations.=C2=A0 If you are not the > intended recipient please immediately delete it and contact the > sender. This is a public list Wendy, so this has no meaning. There are those, who=20 on seeing such a message, will not reply even if they could help. > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Creighton [mailto:lac@openend.se] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 3:11 PM > To: Robinson, Wendy > Cc: 'Laura Creighton'; 'python-list@python.org'; lac@openend.se > Subject: Re: Puzzled > > In a message of Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:48:11 -0800, "Robinson, Wendy"=20 writes: > >Well... I still can't get this to work. I guess I'll just uninstall > > it. It's a bummer that there's no help on basic startup like this. > > > >Wendy Robinson > >Audit Analyst > >(916)=C2=A0566-4994 phone > > There is enormous amount of help available. But we need to know more > about what your problem is, and how it presents itself before we can > start tracking down what your problem is, which is why I wanted a > traceback. > > >>Hi there, > >>I installed Python 3.5.0 64-bit for Windows yesterday and tried some > >> basic programs successfully. This morning I rebooted my computer > >> and can't get a single one to work. The interpreter seems to be > >> fine and the environment variables look correct. But every py file > >> I try to run at the >>> prompt gives me a NameError. > > See, this is where your problem is. There is a conceptual problem in > understanding what you meant by 'tried some basic programs > successfully' versus 'running py files at the >>> prompt'. > > Either you didn't use the Python console -- the thing that is showing > you the '>>>' yesterday, and thus the programs that were working > yesterday are now working every bit as well as they did then, and your > problem is that you do not know how to use the python console. > > Or you did use the console before, and they worked there, and now you > have NameErrors. > > I think the problem is the first sort. > I think that you opened up the python console and then typed in > something like 'myprogram.py' expecting the console to run the > myprogram. Instead you got something like this: > > Python 3.5.0rc1 (default, Aug 12 2015, 14:57:46) [GCC 5.2.1 20150808] > on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more > information. > > >>> myprogram.py > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > NameError: name 'myprogram' is not defined >>> > > If this is what happened then your python is fine. You just do not > know how the interactive console works. It doesn't run files like > this. > > See:https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/introduction.html > > You type code at the console and get responses back. > > If, on the other hand, this is not your problem, then we need a > traceback --- and what I posted above was a traceback -- so that we > can see what caused the NameError. > > Laura Cheers, Gene Heskett =2D-=20 "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." =2DEd Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page