Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; '"python"': 0.16; 'language?': 0.16; 'optional': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'trademark,': 0.16; 'ubuntu,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'this?': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'ubuntu': 0.36; 'thank': 0.38; 'bringing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'legally': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'reported': 0.39; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'black': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'attention.': 0.68; 'belief': 0.84; 'mistaken': 0.84; 'criminal': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: Ubuntu package "python3" does not include tkinter Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:53:39 +0200 Organization: None References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5084aa2d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.7.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366394038 news.xs4all.nl 2269 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36453 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43922 lcrocker wrote: > Am I mistaken in my belief that tkinter is a non-optional part of the > Python language? I installed the "python3" package on Ubuntu, and > tkinter is not included--it's an optional package "python3-tk" that > has to be installed separately. I reported this as a bug as was > summarily slapped down. > > Can we apply some pressure to Ubuntu to fix this? Python is a > trademark, is it not? Can Ubuntu legally claim that their "Python" > package is an implementation of the language if it does not include > the whole language? Thank you for bringing this criminal offense to our attention. Right now a PSU team is readying their black helicopters to get Mr Shuttleworth and his accompli