Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'argument': 0.05; 'say,': 0.05; 'defaults': 0.07; 'perl,': 0.07; 'python3': 0.07; 'insertion': 0.09; 'inserts': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'newline': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; '__future__': 0.16; 'brackets,': 0.16; 'newline,': 0.16; 'newlines': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'typing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '---': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'languages': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'keyword': 0.36; 'like,': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'url:library': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'though,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'kindly': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'sole': 0.78; 'realization': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: running python 2 vs 3 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:36:38 +0000 References: <87ob10nbeh.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <532B4750.2090006@yahoo.com> <87eh1wpr96.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87a9ckpq7y.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87txasoaqi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-8-179.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <87txasoaqi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140319-1, 19/03/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1395351416 news.xs4all.nl 2832 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34718 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:68627 On 20/03/2014 20:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Mark Lawrence : > >> On 20/03/2014 20:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> I must say, though, that Python3 destroyed "print" forever for me. To >>> avoid nausea, I write sys.stdout.write() in all Python3 code. >> >> Not for me, I was using from __future__ import print_function for >> years so got used to typing those two extra brackets, plus print very >> kindly inserts the newlines for me. > > That very realization helped me wean myself from "print." Its sole > raison d'être is the insertion of the newline, which it would be nicer > to micromanage anyway; that's how it's done in other programming > languages as well: C, perl, guile, ... (Well, ok, "echo" is the > exception.) > > > Marko > The end keyword argument to the print function defaults to newline but you can make it anything you like, see http://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#print -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com