Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'lines,': 0.05; 'pop': 0.05; 'line:': 0.07; 'method,': 0.07; 'raises': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'appropriate.': 0.09; 'beginners': 0.09; 'exception,': 0.09; 'nameerror:': 0.09; 'namespace': 0.09; 'runtime': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'whichever': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'def': 0.10; 'ignore': 0.13; 'len(line)': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fix': 0.17; 'else,': 0.17; 'yield': 0.17; 'saying': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; 'changes': 0.20; '"",': 0.22; 'defined': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'ignored.': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'least': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; 'am,': 0.27; 'done.': 0.27; 'replace': 0.27; 'to?': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'lines': 0.28; 'subject:/': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'restricted': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; "skip:' 10": 0.30; 'usually': 0.30; 'function': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'traceback': 0.33; 'clear': 0.35; 'built-in': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'comment': 0.38; 'skip:l 20': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'kind': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'header:Reply- To:1': 0.68; 'lives': 0.71; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'confusion.': 0.84; 'fortunately,': 0.84; 'moderately': 0.84; 'received:74.208.4.194': 0.84; 'sometimes.': 0.84; 'mistake': 0.91; 'shadow': 0.91; 'angel': 0.93 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:03:47 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven D'Aprano Subject: Re: Python garbage collector/memory manager behaving strangely References: <5056871E.7050206@davea.name> <59f8c664-8f11-439e-8002-ca76ee24a632@g7g2000pbh.googlegroups.com> <50570de3$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <50570de3$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Gjw2645Ajg+S+CXNY8p1hX6Qli2FZeii2ymKYClpLG2 jjKma24DPWkjMc5hZzLjCDL9tYlGTo6sWtRJTeh9M+th8jPgNy jkMQjYsxK/j/1wHTSP4C4qM/Sj2YCfM8Iv8VCUhv4I4bMPFCXa zr35WU8JnHRWtS8HT5nFcoVlbwucOhaOrdj7Lv5AHOLJH/vIhM VAOqwbPCgANrGnOkG0mqtThUq2K9pAf8jd8wOrbeLpJLbCPf+z 7QHVoU+8K+MZcs2LoltIXzk6V4TdZCG7zncymBVuxvobvnfec0 /Y+LoRzGR4aCqxG9xA5yAVMJ+dHU2wfr/5dZwxMs3K4IwuX5A= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1347883451 news.xs4all.nl 6846 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35435 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29376 On 09/17/2012 07:47 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:46:55 -0400, Dave Angel wrote: > >> On 09/16/2012 11:25 PM, alex23 wrote: >>> def readlines(f): >>> lines = [] >>> while "f is not empty": >>> line = f.readline() >>> if not line: break >>> if len(line) > 2 and line[-2:] == '|\n': >>> lines.append(line) >>> yield ''.join(lines) >>> lines = [] >>> else: >>> lines.append(line) >> There's a few changes I'd make: >> I'd change the name to something else, so as not to shadow the built-in, > Which built-in are you referring to? There is no readlines built-in. > > py> readlines > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > NameError: name 'readlines' is not defined > > > There is a file.readlines method, but that lives in a different namespace > to the function readlines so there should be no confusion. At least not > for a moderately experienced programmer, beginners can be confused by the > littlest things sometimes. You're right of course, and that's not restricted to beginners. I've been at this for over 40 years, and I make that kind of mistake once in a while. Fortunately, when I make such a mistake on this forum, you usually pop in to keep me honest. When I make it in code, I either get a runtime error, or no harm is done. > >> and to make it clear in caller's code that it's not the built-in one. >> I'd replace that compound if statement with >> if line.endswith("|\n": >> I'd add a comment saying that partial lines at the end of file are >> ignored. > Or fix the generator so that it doesn't ignore partial lines, or raises > an exception, whichever is more appropriate. > > > -- DaveA