Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'output': 0.05; 'iterate': 0.09; 'so?': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'typed': 0.09; 'types:': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; '11:32': 0.16; 'exception:': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'printout': 0.16; 'str()': 0.16; 'typeerror:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'work,': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'input': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'skip:% 10': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'this:': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'skip:p 30': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'originally': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; "skip:' 10": 0.31; '"",': 0.31; 'keys': 0.31; 'values.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; '(i.e.': 0.33; '(most': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'display': 0.35; '(2)': 0.35; 'form.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'consistent': 0.36; 'easiest': 0.38; 'mapping': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'explain': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'kindly': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'mar': 0.68; 'where:': 0.68; 'phenomenon': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=EJ9a50NfNfs90H1viFxpQpyVotNh8ziXsgHoXKUX7Xk=; b=rD9mqJ0JrVpu4FnN/+HGKczzFd3hq2tnfoV6JoZBO0P+RHmm/O1rI3S4ErENTP0Gkw kZeDT8Gno6LKG1NT5saQ0BECW85cEsK18NCFUp+VVxIyEtbmQrUO/i3eH2rXueWTLMOa EZhJRbwABUxQyW/S76EIncl1lgJM1mfTd+sj7zoT83J+LgHnB09kY0oCpb/yicZB46IO UU37Ljt8C+dPUiWwPKu0lVEoI+G+15909PmB7lnWBnkmria4+8LT8rYY5m+atSaZxtI+ Cukpoi1n9LnkGLFpgIT4oPJVasU9eIPoFeH6fhDeQN0HKVqQXFGRgQZkIKxB1woHf19h Yd6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.235.6 with SMTP id ui6mr28239000pbc.45.1395103684103; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:48:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:48:04 +1100 Subject: Re: Ordering in the printout of a dictionary From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1395103693 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57932 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:68472 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Mok-Kong Shen wrote: > Could someone kindly explain a phenomenon in the following where: > > (1) I first typed in a dictionary but got a printout in a reordered > form. > > (2) I then typed in the reordered form but got a printout in the > order that I typed in originally in (1). > > That is, there is no stable "standard" ordering. Why is that so? A dictionary is simply a mapping from keys to values. It has no ordering. > Is there a way to force a certain ordering of the printout or else > somehow manage to get at least a certain stable ordering of the > printout (i.e. input and output are identical)? Yes; instead of simply printing it out (which calls repr()), explicitly iterate over it, like this: def display(d): return '{'+','.join('%r: %r'%(key,d[key]) for key in sorted(d))+'}' >>> print(display({'label': 3, 'parent': 0, 'left child': 1, 'right child': 2})) {'label': 3, 'left child': 1, 'parent': 0, 'right child': 2} That will be consistent, and will also always be sorted, which will probably be what you want for human-readable display. At least, it's consistent as long as the keys all sort consistently, which they will if you use simple strings. Other types of keys may not work, and in fact mixing types may cause an exception: >>> print(display({True:1,"Hello":2})) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "", line 2, in display TypeError: unorderable types: str() < bool() But for strings, this is the easiest way to get what you're looking for. ChrisA