Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: for / while else doesn't make sense Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:51:34 -0600 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <573EC62F.4090401@lucidity.plus.com> <573f9322$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1og3q33.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <574045e1$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de WhCpcot2Xt674E7v6g+Pbw/6juAbl4xTkaaBt0LZAEzA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; '21,': 0.07; 'hettinger': 0.07; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'received:209.85.218': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; '2016': 0.16; 'feature?': 0.16; 'innovate': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'am,': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'wonder': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '(including': 0.30; 'raymond': 0.30; 'anyone': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'languages': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'according': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'rare': 0.66; 'donald': 0.84; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'video:': 0.84; 'url:video': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ijxm71RAabYMXzCkeUrcSRw2M8IX2b6MmMKe1OwR/0E=; b=lxX4kqJga3MOcNtORAkJvlgEWCCjktf9qFOw9lMZUxAjWYP0Dok2vEVDwztG2KQD/9 hSOB00G8C2bqCjbyzUe4iMP4KnsWBciLPQjbUQeTR0ypp5ksmddqL3737b0cgWEK+MEO y7vPiWY7QLR9g3Jb8mwceZzTGsdDkBGpQI8V4qERtOCcF8gJKlv/nUwYq3VjauVjwKH6 xAVgGX9mX9KCreCJyDEDx354KYZaXWfySSpbGzJlyEOZDCrD1gOPk10e7FKVzYhSyE1P GZAlpGmbym+c4JyZF6HvqFqjZEapYBQtWEujQ7K50PdZZHvxgVzH9ArLJS6meTnSNyTe vmwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ijxm71RAabYMXzCkeUrcSRw2M8IX2b6MmMKe1OwR/0E=; b=A03ZQQfApDxJAQKizMuhmOuDWzMk0/nlU4+SbitJ2T1JE1uGnpZvEBe5qgWH16FMUa nqNSWDAm28gnb/k48On8eUx3ADH9BWIf3XncljUMBG0UWDprhz4UvWwHs5jlEkBqRdKk 7oLW3SeeGbVobwnTzSJy+hnMJPIILwEgRAzAytycNMnWRie4WXQf+AW0O1R4iQrUk4P6 mDpGsnuch4ho/G+ejzO3GLSdnk2FqB/wH8+PmpsYo2xCcVuWXhqDBLO5KR623Vv+zj/6 3zJZJ3LflY2crG3ql1U2tAU7zCWtY6VTu3o1FQioBf6aQCZW04I2Dt4RjJGPg9LS8MBY dVng== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXcs/BrIO7Eu+ch0Cd1Ax/WazL77nq8mBsj3QmLIBFqfZMXkn9JcU4mc10ebeNAaRkBZDOG58sYgbKK+w== X-Received: by 10.202.214.208 with SMTP id n199mr4853092oig.144.1463838733866; Sat, 21 May 2016 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <574045e1$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <573EC62F.4090401@lucidity.plus.com> <573f9322$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1og3q33.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <574045e1$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108918 On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Does anyone know of other languages that include the same feature? It's very > rare for Python to innovate in language features. > > (I wonder if it came from ABC?) According to Raymond Hettinger starting at about 15:50 in this video: http://pyvideo.org/video/1780/transforming-code-into-beautiful-idiomatic-pytho It was invented by Donald Knuth (including the choice of keyword).