Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: alex wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 19:43:40 -0400 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87zistp25v.fsf@bsb.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de EhYORECPsSL8KFoIN6oT9AqmgqM5ig2EnVTKlRrXES5w== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'column': 0.07; 'mouse': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'logic': 0.09; 'stack': 0.13; 'up-to-date': 0.13; '2016': 0.16; 'amiga': 0.16; 'confusion': 0.16; 'programmable': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; '\xc2\xa0i': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>': 0.18; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'fix': 0.21; 'machine': 0.21; 'java': 0.22; 'visible': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; '(you': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'unix': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'follows': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'window': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'computer.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'though.': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'stuff': 0.38; 'wrong': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'back': 0.62; 'per': 0.62; 'managers': 0.63; 'limit': 0.65; 'protect': 0.76; 'miss': 0.77; 'battle.': 0.84; 'century': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'inevitable': 0.84; 'inventor': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'mr.': 0.99 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WsXtspt1hKOMfNgdomGFq2DXoK+SRvZYjlAYRnlUx/g=; b=w1dvVka2ivLyFN7bdqbG4coU85ocJosIySuGuIbHq2hlQLY8grbnWfJsssoWRU14fs IVagV7Pd/mOz17YkvBWvBiPQY69s+rGMSncVGxZ6CMHmmeNUPlwsWCKRAJLhUKIlurxB Ny9S7x6B2GUWPkFPfoPPUPao2AilIGIszDvieQvQrlBd2lM0Y6H1K7yWg/GAuelU/rhq RoBSELvBQuqsDoHW7Y4jeoYvJ5P0KEqpjKDd3+znfpSvgoHzmgxdbV2JXC59rUv2lOah J8JkSNd9lecwMVaPkRic1D2WYaGKBmR8j0Q0ZL6pWWhM4++LA2C1c5s/X7H7hBebOdMS M1Ww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=WsXtspt1hKOMfNgdomGFq2DXoK+SRvZYjlAYRnlUx/g=; b=m5D0x+D+9N1wFhL7AxTk0MgfmN0yJwNAPAzffxYVR5l3mK3OLwhvr9zjRryTSbq9qw jIE+hhVc8KembGkKyNY8fiODthlkZJtC5CsdgesCS/d5t3Ggwf6DEjRyqeKxh4LDzUXR ct1wVH6YKt4jcSA0UngHjt9KG6f1c6PoEt03nlBt5se3aj0CvkN5ddC1gyZ2u2AqJozh wZpjrc6YC3/dP5z9BlM4C5gzRqDXXNKRxMnssPlFpW+di6EETri2dF+u7VnHYEjznQvd Y2Iucm0JALxL7q63nRrz+rg9oGgGWCue1kRxHINLK6itJUBBQ7gGgv1Lk3y2J6vbio9h M98Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUEzGzjMinhsZik2PFUwckhCiOleWZZDH62iPMwHWk+6vo69z+hs8rc242oWOW5kYT/CewTJz91aLp6BA== X-Received: by 10.107.128.26 with SMTP id b26mr27151226iod.87.1460850260413; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:44:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87zistp25v.fsf@bsb.me.uk> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107139 The 80 column limit probably helps protect us from the singularity. Once the robots take over we will have code with a digestible amount of logic per line and can fix what we have caused. In other words, Java is only armoring the robots against us for the inevitable battle. On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Ben Bacarisse > wrote: > > Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > > > >> I still miss the Amiga -- in which one could /push/ a window to > the > >> back of the stack while still retaining input focus! Made it nice for > >> transcribing stuff from a visible window to a text input region while it > >> was obscured. > > > > That was commonly available on Unix window managers and is still around. > > I use it on even an up-to-date Linux/Gnome3 system (you set focus > > follows mouse rather than focus on click). > > Focus follows mouse is annoying for other reasons though. > > ChrisA > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- "On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -Charles Babbage, 19th century English mathematician, philosopher, inventor and mechanical engineer who originated the concept of a programmable computer.